7mm Mag Savage (stevens) Model 200

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Haytham

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hi,

I have a question about this gun and I really hope someone will have an answer for it. my rifle misfire sometimes and I ma not sure why? I am using a 150gr fusion bullets, and someone suggested to change the ammo? i am a little bit frustrated as you don't know when the dam thing will shoot and when it won't? Could it be the trigger? I know it's a cheap rifle, arround 400 canadian but that all what I can afford!

also I took the barrel off stock and left my scope mounted on the barrel to see what's wrong with trigger? found nothing, but do I have to sight it in again? or should it be ok? Thank you all, and any help or tips are highly appreciated.

Regards
Haytham (Tim)
 
If this is a brand new rifle then the first place to check would be with the ammo - use only good quality ammo and try a few different brands. If the problem persists then go to the owners manual. It should show you how to disassemble the bolt - it may be as simple as an abundance of grease or oil in the bolt that is gumming things up and dragging on the firing pin assembly. Take it apart and give it a good cleaning and see if that helps any. If these two things don't help any then contact the store where you bought the gun and see what they say - a new rifle is expected to fire every time, no excuses. If the gun is used then talk to a gunsmith and see what he thinks.
 
If the firing pin protrusion is ok (just drop the round cocking piece in the bolt and the firing pin will stick out the face), then the issue is ammo. Also, take the bolt apart and hose down with brake cleaner. Maybe packing grease is causing the firing pin to stick.

As you likely know, ammo and chambers come in a variety of tolerances. If you have overly large chamber and overly short ammo (still within SAAMI spec), you can have inconsistent ignition.

Try Winchester ammo and if problem disappears, you know it has to do with ammo tolerance.

Jerry
 
thanks for the tips.. appreciated..

the trigger always pulls and fire where is no ammo, it only missfire when loaded??

I will try cleaning tonight and hopefuly this will work.

on the other hand, do you think I still need to sight it in as I took the barrel og to check the trigger or should it still be ok?

Thanks guys, this site rocks

Haytham (Tim)
 
no gun store will exchange a rifle. take it up with Savage, they're the one who made the rifle

you should check your point of impact any time you remove the action from the stock
 
When you say it misfires, do you mean the sear lets go, the firing pin releases but the shell doesn't fire? The primer has no indent or a light indent?

Or does the trigger not release the sear and firing pin?
You keep mentioning the trigger. Have you adjusted the trigger?
 
The trigger not release the sear and firing pin, that's exactly what's happening... Savage will not even talk to me as the rifle is about 18 months old.

Regards
Tim
 
If that is the case, simple solution. Take the action out of the stock. At the back of the trigger will be two allen bolts. One controls the safety engagement, the other the overtravel.

Someone has adjusted the overtravel too far which is stopping the trigger from moving enough to drop the hammer.

With the rifle cocked on an EMPTY chamber, turn them both out 1/2 turn. Try the trigger. Keep moving them out until the hammer falls 100% of the time.

Once that is done, engage the safety. It will be very obvious which allen bolt hits the safety lug. Move that one in until it just makes firm contact with the safety. Test by pulling on the trigger hard. Hammer will not drop.

When safety is adjusted properly, the trigger will not move when you put the safety on and off even after pulling on the trigger. This is very important or else the rifle may fire when safety is taken off.

Test by dry firing with and without the safety to ensure all is working perfectly. Problem solved.

Jerry
 
Haytham said:
The trigger not release the sear and firing pin, that's exactly what's happening... Savage will not even talk to me as the rifle is about 18 months old.

Regards
Tim
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Hi Haytham, I'm a little curious about your rifle. You say it's 18 months old and seem to indicate that you paid $400.00 for it. The gun retails for $320.00 Canadian, brand new. Did you buy yours new or used? and did you buy it at a gunshow? I once saw this gun at the Calgary gun show with a cheap Trashco scope on it for over $500.00. I'm also a bit surprised about what you said regarding Savage not talking to you. If you were looking for a gun exchange, then I can see that, but they appear to be very helpful when one encounters problems with a rifle. Try this web site if some of the suggestions here are not working for you.

http://www.savageshooters.net
 
mysticplayer, thanks alot for the help, but Iam kinda newbie with Guns and I don't think I can do what you told me to do without worring about doing something wrong.

gitrdun, You are absolutely right, I bought this gum from a Calgary Gun show and I paid 400 plus gst.. I think.. It had a Simmons Scope and I replaced the scope with A burris Scope.

Regards
Tim
 
You have to be very careful and know prices at the gun shows. I go every year but I always pack a copy of the Wholesale Sports catalogue with me. Ok, so you paid $400.00 but you did get a Simmons scope, plus bases and rings, so as long as the gun was brand new, you did OK. And you have taken a step in the right direction by putting a Burris scope on it. If you're fairly new to guns, then I would say don't mess with the trigger yourself, there is far too much at stake. Let a gunsmith do the work and sleep with both eyes closed.

Oh, and to answer another of your questions, why not sight in after having done some work on the gun???...it's just another good excuse to get out & shoot.
 
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I thought you just bought the thing..

Take it to a gunsmith. He will adjust the trigger back for you. Someone has made it too light.:)

It's not hard to adjust yourself, if you feel comfy doing it.
 
It’s always nice to see how many good people r out there trying to help and sharing their expertise. I am amazed. Thanks to all.

As I mentioned before that I am a newbie with guns, but if anyone in the Calgary area willing to help is much appreciated.

As long as there r fellow hunters like you guys around this sport is in good hands.

God bless

Regards
Haytham (Tim)
 
Haytham said:
The trigger not release the sear and firing pin, that's exactly what's happening... Savage will not even talk to me as the rifle is about 18 months old.

Regards
Tim
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Savage will talk to you. They stand behind their product and may recommend sending it to an authorized repair center, aka gunsmith, in this case. No firearms company in their right mind would give out technical advise over the phone to customers.

As mentioned, it may have been fooled with and neither you nor Savage are to blame. Take it to a gunsmith, tell him what is wrong and be patient. Probably the trigger spring too light as mentioned but who knows what else is tampered with?

Cheers
 
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