I'm in the prairies where the deer roam...I'm able to hunt all sorts of terrain too, depending on location, many shots past 300 and many shots under 100.
I too have a 30-30 and a .50inline as well...should or would the 7mm make a valuable addition??
7mm rem mag... I don't get it.
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I'm in the prairies where the deer roam...I'm able to hunt all sorts of terrain too, depending on location, many shots past 300 and many shots under 100.
I too have a 30-30 and a .50inline as well...should or would the 7mm make a valuable addition??
Need is not the question, 'do you want' is a better way of putting it!
One of my own observations about the 7mm Mag is that it seems fairly easy to develop an accurate load for. I have only seen one 7mm Mag that showed a reluctance to shoot well, and that was an early #1 Ruger, which eventually got a new barrel to smarten it up. My present 7mm Mag, a 700 "Classic" has been entered in the "Hunter" class 1000 yard shoot at Burns Lake for 6 Consecutive years, and Won or placed 2nd 3 times. I feel that is not too shabby (best = 8" group at 1000) Because at the time, Factory ammo was the only type allowed in this class, I was shooting the Federal Premium 150 grain Ballistic Tip, which chrony'd at 3005 avg. Mild, but did the job way out.
I have a 160 Partition load that will shoot 2½" at 300 meters, and it is a hammer at 3080 fps using Norma MRP. I have lately been working on the 160 Accubond, and a couple of powders show real promise there as well. The 7mm Mag is no Miracle Chambering, nor is it one that most hunters "need". It is, like so many others, a decent North American game getter that is capable, manageable, effective, and ammo is readily available. What's not to like? Regards, Eagleye.
I have a 160 Partition load that will shoot 2½" at 300 meters, and it is a hammer at 3080 fps using Norma MRP. I have lately been working on the 160 Accubond, and a couple of powders show real promise there as well. The 7mm Mag is no Miracle Chambering, nor is it one that most hunters "need". It is, like so many others, a decent North American game getter that is capable, manageable, effective, and ammo is readily available. What's not to like? Regards, Eagleye.
................Bulls**t. I can hold on hair out to 450 yards with my .257 Weatherby Mag. Nothing over rated there in my books. What i do find over rated is the 7mm Rem mag actually. Lots of powder for not much gain over a .30-06. Chrony a 165 grain 06 light hornady mag round out of a Ruger no 1 with a 24" Hart barrel sometime and you will throw your 7 mm in the next river.
I too am a HUGE fan of the .257 Weatherby.
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Moving from a 308 to a 7mm Mag is a BIG jump, recoil wise. There is no doubt however that for prairie shooting, the 7MM will get you out there a bit flatter than the 308, and have more left when it hits.
A couple of more comments.
The 308 is a well balanced round, the 7MM Mag, quite a bit over bore capacity. It's a powder burner, it's quite a bit more expensive to shoot as well.
I suggest you find someone that will let you fire a few rounds, and see how you like it. Do some research, and see if you really want to take the magnum plunge.
Magnumitise is a disease, If you need it, by all means get it, but beware, it's catching.
Yeah, you make a good point JYC...this 7mm would be a barrel for my Encore,
I should add that I just got rid of my .300WM bbl due to flinch causing factor.
If only TC made a 270WSM bbl
I kinda disagree... as I find that recoil is somewhat of a personal thing. I don't find it a huge jump to go from my 308 to my 7mm mag. (It is more recoil, but I wouldn't say if feels like a big jump).
I felt it was a big jump from the 308 to my 300 win mag though. Others may not think so.
I don't have a 308 to compare it with, but compared to 7.62 x54R I find the 7mm rem mag very mild. I think much of the recoil has to do with the rifle you are shooting it in. In an M-44 the 7.62 x54R really pounds my shoulder, but 7mm rem mag in my P14 feels more like a gentle push.
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Originally Posted by popcan
""I felt it was a big jump from the 308 to my 300 win mag though. Others may not think so.
It isn't so bad that I feel the need to get rid of the 300 wm though.
It's not like I am shooting groups at the range with it off the bench all day... now that would hurt.
The 7mm mag is fine, and I can shoot it a lot without problems. But I don't. That's what 308 is for!
Originally Posted by popcan
""I felt it was a big jump from the 308 to my 300 win mag though. Others may not think so.
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I totally agree...now it's bye bye
It isn't so bad that I feel the need to get rid of the 300 wm though.
It's not like I am shooting groups at the range with it off the bench all day... now that would hurt.
The 7mm mag is fine, and I can shoot it a lot without problems. But I don't. That's what 308 is for!
I installed a Limbsaver....I just did'nt like that WACK I felt on my cheek and scope kisses...can we say instant flinch factor..never a problem with my 30/06...7mm I fired waayyyy back in a Browning A-Bolt Syn..nice.
I comfortable with 308..who is'nt...I want that reach out and touch someone availability that the 308 throws in the towel on and unfortunately my choices are limited to what Thompson Center provides.
WACK I felt on my cheek and scope kisses...can we say instant flinch factor..never a problem with my 30/06...7mm I fired waayyyy back in a Browning A-Bolt Syn..nice.I comfortable with 308..who is'nt...I want that reach out and touch someone availability that the 308 throws in the towel on and unfortunately my choices are limited to what Thompson Center provides.
Get the 7mm barrel and pound the deer with 140gr pills.
Yup, I think that's what I'm gonna do
I've already spoke to my Bro "Gilly" and he's gonna lend me his to try out, he is the one who bought my .300WM bbl. Keep it in the family
You can't get that kind of velocity unless you are handloading, and I think those kind of numbers would indicate you are loading too hot.
I have chrony'd factory 162gr Hornadys at 2780 fps avg.
My .30-06 load with a 165gr Hornady BTSP or Accubond clocks 2850 fps.
See link to www.reloadersnest.com for some loads...
http://www.reloadersnest.com/query_bw.asp?CaliberID=48&BulletWeight=175
Hardly too hot.
Here's a link to a lawyer-proof load from Alliant.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...typeid=2&weight=175&shellid=1068&bulletid=244
Reloaders routinely get well over 2900 with 175 gr bullets using slow powders, and as Rick posted, it will indeed outrun the 300 Win.
Ted
175's at 2950 or even a wee bit more is pretty easy using RL 22 or IMR 7828.
Several years ago -I don't recall exactly what I've chronoed Premium Federal factory ammo using 160gr Failsafe bullets. but they were right on the money for claimed velocities, I think 3050 or similar. I still have abotu half that box, I shoudl shoot them again.
If you want 7mmRM top performance, you will need to handload or choose your factory ammo selectively, as most of it is underloaded.
Several years ago -I don't recall exactly what I've chronoed Premium Federal factory ammo using 160gr Failsafe bullets. but they were right on the money for claimed velocities, I think 3050 or similar. I still have abotu half that box, I shoudl shoot them again.
If you want 7mmRM top performance, you will need to handload or choose your factory ammo selectively, as most of it is underloaded.
