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i got my first rifle a couple of months ago. it is a browning bbr with a leupold vari-x-3 1.5-5 scope on it and have now taken it to the range 3 times. the first time i went i didnt have the gun seated in my shoulder right and punched myself pretty good. so i shot my friends sks and a buddy of mine put a few rounds through my gun and was getting 1" or less 3 shot groups at 100 metres. i was pretty impressed with this. this was using 150 grain rem core lokts.

i went to the range yesterday and was much more comfortable with my gun and put about 30 rounds through it. some being 175gr winchester power points and others 175gr federal power shoks.

i didnt change my scope settings from the first time with the 150s and was most of my shots were falling in a 6 inch group. i wasnt being anal about 3 shot groups or anythign because i just wanted to get some rounds down the barrel and get comfortable with the gun.


today i also went to the range and was generally in the 6-8 mark for another 10 rounds with the 175s then i went back to the rem 150s.

my first 3 shots were consistant and then i was alll over the map for the next 10 . i never let the barrel get really hot but it was quite warm.

my questions are:
1) i know that the gun likes the 150 gr core lokts for my friend shot them very well with my gun, should i just be buying this ammo and get myself dialed in to it and use it as my primary hunting rnd?

2) am i asking to much of my rifle when it gets warm, should i just be taking it a little easier and be a little more patient?

3) when i am at the range should i be running a patch through the gun between different types of ammo?

4) am i a dumb ass newbie who can shoot worth crap:D

any input is appreciated

fuzzy
 
If your rifle likes the 150gr corelokts,why not use them?

If you want the barrel to last don't overheat it.Shoot a group,then let it cool.

If your friend is getting 1" groups,and you are getting 6" groups,he obviously is a decent shooter,so get him to teach you how to shoot.
 
I guess that since you started out with one of the strongest round out there, its gonna take some time to get used to the recoil. You just might be anticipating the shots causing you to flinch a bit. Congrats on the fine gun, Brownings are excellent guns.
 
I guess that since you started out with one of the strongest round out there, its gonna take some time to get used to the recoil.
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:rolleyes:The 7mmremmag is actually one of the milder magnums available,it is far from being one of the strongest rounds in power,or in recoil.The BBR is certainly not a lightweight,which does help to reduce recoil even more.The average shooter should have no problem tolerating the recoil,especially if he uses a lighter weight bullet.
 
fuzzy said:
my questions are:
1) i know that the gun likes the 150 gr core lokts for my friend shot them very well with my gun, should i just be buying this ammo and get myself dialed in to it and use it as my primary hunting rnd?
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Yes.

fuzzy said:
2) am i asking to much of my rifle when it gets warm, should i just be taking it a little easier and be a little more patient?
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Yes.

fuzzy said:
3) when i am at the range should i be running a patch through the gun between different types of ammo?
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No.

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After firing around 53 shots, did you run any copper cleaner through it? Probably a good time to clean the copper fouling and powder out of the barrel, then take it out with the ammo you are going to be hunting with. Take a fouling shot, then let it cool slightly. Next shoot a group and adjust your scope if necessary. If you are satisfied with your point of impact, you're ready to go hunting.
 
probably not the gun. i dont know anyone who started off shooting moa. my first day i was hitting a 5 gal pail at 50 yds and that wasnt easy with that 303 w/irons
missed like 6 times.

first day i got my 7mag i shot a 6 inch group off the hood of my truck. 200 rnds later i can keep em in a poker chip all day.

150s only shoot better because of milder anticipated recoil IMHO
 
thanks for all the input, i did clean the gun after the first day out but between the last 2 days at the range but i did clean it right away last night.

how warm is too warm for the barrel. i do a fair bit of welding at my job and am often handling hot materials so my and someone elses definition of hot may be 2 differnt things.

should i do my fouling shot wait 2-3 mins then do a 3 shot group, then wait 10-15 min before a follow up or should i be waiting even longer??


fuzzy
the newbie who cant shoot worth crap:D
 
150s only shoot better because of milder anticipated recoil IMHO
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All guns have a preference for certain bullet weights and for certain loads.If you believe that all bullet weights will shoot equally accurately in every gun,you don't have a great deal of experience on the topic.

how warm is too warm for the barrel.
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If you can't comfortable grip the barrel with your bare hand and hold it indefinitely,it is far too hot for good barrel life.
 
If I can add something here...

Do you flinch? IF you do, an exercise that will help you get over that all too common conundrum is to purchase a couple of snap caps (plastic spring assisted 7mm cartridges that allow you to fire your rifle "dry")

Load them up and have a friend stand beside you (video record yourself if you can) while you prepare to take a "shot". Convince yourself there is a live round in the chamber and concentrate just like your were at the range. Squeeze (do not pull) the trigger as you would normally do. Review video, or ask friend standing beside you to tell you, to observe what you did when you heard the audible click/"bang". You'd be surprised.

Most competent shooters do not anticipate the bang/recoil. In fact, they allow the rifle to "surprise" them.

When gripping your rifle, try not to choke it like it owes you money. Just enough to hold it steady. When it goes off it should surprise you and move in your grip a little. Use the fat of your finger to squeeze the trigger (the first fat part of your trigger finger). And if you can remember, when your ready to shoot, exhale slowly then stop...fire within one to two seconds.

If you practice this, your groups will shrink dramatically, I guarantee it.

Hope this helps. Good luck and post your results when you get it straightened out.

Cheers
 
stubblejumper said:
All guns have a preference for certain bullet weights and for certain loads.If you believe that all bullet weights will shoot equally accurately in every gun,you don't have a great deal of experience on the topic.
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thanks tips. . you should be a goalie, nothing gets by you.
never once stated all bullets perform the same

I was stating that as a novice a flinch is more likely the culprit
150's recoil is incredibly tolerable vs 175s
 
I was stating that as a novice a flinch is more likely the culprit
150's recoil is incredibly tolerable vs 175s
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"More likely the culprit" was never mentioned in your original post.

What you did post was a very matter of fact statement.

150s only shoot better because of milder anticipated recoil IMHO
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Your statement insinuates that there is no possibility that perhaps the gun simply prefers 150 gr bullets over the 175gr bullets.
 
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