7mm rum or 7mm saum

So did the post mortum show where Buddy hit? Recover any bullets? What loads were used, factory or handloads?

Avid shooters want to know. :D

My buddy was shooting a 30-06 with 150gr Remington Cor-lokts. He loves those bullets.

Deer was standing broadside at over 500 yards. Said he put the crosshairs right behind the front legs but at the top of the head height.

The deer was hit in the rear quarter which is probably why it didnt run. He was right on for vertical ajustment but definately off on horizontal. At that distance, it's hard to say what the issue was. Might have been wind, or might have even been the fence post swaying in the wind.

My shot finishing shot was at 325-350 yards with a 7mm Ultra Mag. 160gr Nosler Accubond and Retumbo powder.
 
I'm not a gunsmith but I've shot my share of rifles in various calibers out to some decent yardages and brought my fair share of meat home for the freezer. I've learned to respect any rifle that shoots to it's capacity... Especially when I'm shooting to mine...

A rule of thumb for me, is that it's takes time to learn what any given caliber, load and type of bullet can do. As is often the case, I was looking on the net and believe that Remington is not longer producing the 7mmRUM in a production rifle. It may do so out of their custom shop, but I don't recall seeing anything in their more mainstream production rifles in 7mmRUM. However, there are those who know the underpinnings of various Remington production rifles much more extensively then I do, but I'm just stating this information as something you may want to check out further. Remember that brass for the 7mmRUM will be a bit pricey, as will the amount of powder needed to reload your cartridges.

A baby step down from the 7mmRUM would be a 7mmSAUM which again, seems to be exhibiting some of the signs of the death rattle... At least as a production rifle. Brass isn't impossible to find, but it's not an item that a lot of reloading supply gun shops readily carry. So yo may want to keep that in mind before you make your decission.

Now another 7mm shooter is the 7mm STW. It has a lot of pop and can get the job done at least as effectively as the 7mmSAUM. And is probably right behind the 7mmRUM. Now the 7mm STW was created about 2 decades ago and was based on a necked down case from the Remington 8mmMag. This case is the same demensions as the 7mmRM but it's longer, so you can add more powder to get down range, faster and somewhat flatter then the 7mmRM. If you wanted a gun of the 7mmSTW set-up you can have a gunsmith ream out a 7mmRM so it will fit the demensions of the extra length of the 7mmSTW case.
Some work on the ejector port may need to be smithed too. So that the longer &mmSTW can exit as well as it need be.

Now you have the 7mmWSM and the 7mmRM. Both, and in fact all of the various conversions and diversions of the 7mm bullet can produce some decent numbers. If you want something that has enough authority for most game, and is probably more easy to obtain, then the 7mmRM is probably one of the primary choices. If you like short actions then I would suggest the 7mmWSM. very nice ballistics there, and still available in a production rifle.

Now there are more choices: Like the 7mm08 which is a necked down version of a 308.
You can look at a 7-30 Waters which is a necked down 30-30. this is probably one of the more rarer 7mm cartridges and was usually religated to lever action model 94s. Which, if it was ever built to shoot lever evolution ammo, would do well on deer to respectable yardages beyond what it is capable of doing now.

Also there are at least two more 7mm cartridges in European demensions and you could look at those options as well.

All of these options provide for some interesting reading, thinking, pondering, and if possible, try shooting some of them before you make your final decision... Or, you could have one of each, and see which one wins the race as your all time favorite.
 
All the magnum 7mm's will burn barrels. For hunters this generally doesn't matter, you're still looking at years of service. For a target round, you will be replacing a barrel per year if you shoot a lot. I have used the RUM, STW, SAUM, WSM, Wby and RM for hunting (and a few other wildcats). All good rounds, my personal favorite being the STW, which I've used for going on 30 years. Having said that, you need to handload for it. Soon you will need to handload for all the rest (except the RM), the way things are going. For ease of use, and primarily as a hunting round, I would choose the RM. In the non-belted/magnum rounds you have the 280/7x64 twins, various wildcats based on those cases, the 7mm-08 (and wildcats based on that case), 7-30 Waters (and wildcats etc). The long range silhouette shooters use the 7mm-08 quite a bit and for good reason. It is accurate, has relatively low recoil, and in the right launching platform(and with the right bullets) will work out to 1000 meters quite well. For a rifle that will be used primarily for target and only occasionally as a hunting tool, I would recommend the 7mm-08. FWIW - dan
 
I got recently a 7mm RUM from à friend.
It hasard a Boyd thumbhole stock and stainless Steel actions.
This one is a LAZERBEAM.
I was recently at the range with a friend and shoot à 2 and half grouping at 300y.
The ammo isn't cheap.
152$ canadien a box but I think it still wort it.
 
Regarding the SAUM, I had one years ago (15 or so) in a 700 Sendero II, absolutely beautiful rifle, but it took a lot of tweaking to get those short fat shells to feed reliably, at first mine had a bad tendency for the bolt to ride over the next shell on cycling the bolt to reload.

It never seemed to happen on the first shot though.

It seemed like a common thing at the time, I seem to remember a lot forum reading and a tube or two of jb weld and lots of filing to get the feed ramp to guide the shell properly, maybe it was justa rifle issue more so than the cartridge ?

It seemed like the shell would cantilever forward, is that still an issue with them ?

Brass was a bugger to find back then too, can't imagine what its like these days.
 
Regarding the SAUM, I had one years ago (15 or so) in a 700 Sendero II, absolutely beautiful rifle, but it took a lot of tweaking to get those short fat shells to feed reliably, at first mine had a bad tendency for the bolt to ride over the next shell on cycling the bolt to reload.

It never seemed to happen on the first shot though.

It seemed like a common thing at the time, I seem to remember a lot forum reading and a tube or two of jb weld and lots of filing to get the feed ramp to guide the shell properly, maybe it was justa rifle issue more so than the cartridge ?

It seemed like the shell would cantilever forward, is that still an issue with them ?

Brass was a bugger to find back then too, can't imagine what its like these days.
My 7 SAUM is built on a Rem 7. Feeds fine. As for brass, it is quite easy to make from 270 wsm cases. - dan
 
i like to be different and was thinking to go a different action then a 700 but what option do i have, would a stevens 200 action work i can pick one right now for about 150, would like to see all my options before i decide.
A t3 tikka action would be a good one to consider. They have good aftermarket options. Howa is supposed to be good as well.

7mm has lots of options. 280ai is gaining popularity. You also dont "need" a Magnum to shoot long range (but it is alot of fun). Guys are shooting 6.5 creedmores a mile allegedly at targets.

If you reload get what ever you like. If not find something that is easy to get ammo for and at a price you're willing to pay.

I think now it is hard to get better results from a built rifle when going budget friendly and maybe even the more expensive. Most companies have sub MOA guarantee, and you can get to shooting right away.
 
i like to be different and was thinking to go a different action then a 700 but what option do i have, would a stevens 200 action work i can pick one right now for about 150, would like to see all my options before i decide.
The stevens 200 action would work just fine for a budget build. The first rifle I ever built was off one of them. In my case it was a 22-250 AI. Absolutely nothing wrong with that action and they are cheap. It might be a bit short for a 7mm rum, You would have to look into it, but it will be ok for the 7 SAUM.
 
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