7mm STW

The only thing I am concerned about is the sako extractor, pros and cons to it.
How much would I be looking at to order a ptg bolt and have it head spaced with the factory style extractor ?


Originally the conversion was done to accommodate the PPC case on a 700 action... Why only part of the Sako extractor system was used I don't know. Perhaps the idea that the Sako "bolt guide" was actually a safety device escaped those who pioneered the conversion, or the fact that catastrophic case failures are rather rare.

The problem I have today with those conversions is very few of the owners know what they are getting into... perhaps many of those doing the conversion don't realize it either. I simply wish if you are thinking about having the conversion done you have the facts before hand.

The design of the Model 700 action is superior to any other mass-produced 2 lug bolt action ever made, and that by installing only part of the extractor system from a Sako (2 locking lug action) completely compromises that design. The alteration does not make it happen. But the alteration is completely unsafe when it happens. We are talking about a catastrophic case failure. They do not occur on a regular basis. (In the US there have been serious injuries and at least one death associated with this conversion).

A Sako extractor is safe in a two lug Sako so why shouldn't it be safe in a two lug Remington? ... Because when people install the Sako extractor in a Remington they do not install the Sako bolt guide, which is the safety design incorporated in the Sako. That bolt guide is there to protect the shooter and anyone close to the shooter if a case fails drastically. I do not understand why anyone would knowingly install only part of the Sako system. If the Sako extractor and the Sako bolt guide were installed then the Remington would be as safe as a Sako. Not as strong and safe as the Remington was before alteration but safe.

Here is a picture of how well the Sako "bolt guide" deflected/prevented debris from exiting down the bolt raceway...

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Congrats! The 7mm STW is a great long distance/ultra velocity cartridge. My son has one and it loves VV165 with a 150 grain Nolser Ballistic Tip. The load came out of the Sierra Reloading Manual.
 
Thanks for the information Guntech !
Will the factory extractor be able to handle the 7mmstw, I've read that the big bores don't do so well in the rem 700, not that the 7mmstw is a big bore but it does pack some energy.
 
Thanks for the information Guntech !
Will the factory extractor be able to handle the 7mmstw, I've read that the big bores don't do so well in the rem 700, not that the 7mmstw is a big bore but it does pack some energy.

A factory Remington 700 extractor will easily handle hanging over 200 pounds on it... I don't know at what weight the failure point would be. It would not worry me with any cartridge that fits the bolt face...
 
Originally the conversion was done to accommodate the PPC case on a 700 action... Why only part of the Sako extractor system was used I don't know. Perhaps the idea that the Sako "bolt guide" was actually a safety device escaped those who pioneered the conversion, or the fact that catastrophic case failures are rather rare.

The problem I have today with those conversions is very few of the owners know what they are getting into... perhaps many of those doing the conversion don't realize it either. I simply wish if you are thinking about having the conversion done you have the facts before hand.

The design of the Model 700 action is superior to any other mass-produced 2 lug bolt action ever made, and that by installing only part of the extractor system from a Sako (2 locking lug action) completely compromises that design. The alteration does not make it happen. But the alteration is completely unsafe when it happens. We are talking about a catastrophic case failure. They do not occur on a regular basis. (In the US there have been serious injuries and at least one death associated with this conversion).

A Sako extractor is safe in a two lug Sako so why shouldn't it be safe in a two lug Remington? ... Because when people install the Sako extractor in a Remington they do not install the Sako bolt guide, which is the safety design incorporated in the Sako. That bolt guide is there to protect the shooter and anyone close to the shooter if a case fails drastically. I do not understand why anyone would knowingly install only part of the Sako system. If the Sako extractor and the Sako bolt guide were installed then the Remington would be as safe as a Sako. Not as strong and safe as the Remington was before alteration but safe.

Here is a picture of how well the Sako "bolt guide" deflected/prevented debris from exiting down the bolt raceway...

243blowupaction-0.jpg

Ya great post , Rick at ATRS had informed me it wasnt a good conversion. The subject had changed and he didnt get into specifics. Great bit of info ... thanks !
 
Thanks for the information Guntech !
Will the factory extractor be able to handle the 7mmstw, I've read that the big bores don't do so well in the rem 700, not that the 7mmstw is a big bore but it does pack some energy.

The 7mmSTW is a 8mm remingtion Mag. necked down to 7mm ...so yes the factory extractor will easily handle the 7mmSTW.
cheers
 
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