7x57 Mauser enough for moose and elk?

Bell shot lots of the big guys:
• He shot exactly 1,011 elephants with a series of 6 Rigby-made 7x57mm (.275 Rigby) rifles with 173 grain military ammo.

• He shot 300 elephants with a Mannlicher-Schoenauer 6.5x54mm carbine using the long 159 grain FMJ bullets.

• He shot 200 pachyderms with the .303 and the 215 grain army bullet.

• He went to a .318 Westley Richards for a while, which is a cartridge firing a 250 grain bullet at about 2400 fps, but found the ammunition unreliable and returned to the 7mm.
 
I question why you would choose a 140 gr. in the 7x57 for moose. The 7MM mauser was designed for 173-176 gr. bullets, and still works best with the heavy weights. The long throat and fast twists is usually more accurate with long heavy bullets, and for big critters heavy bullets generally penetrate better too.
The 140 grain bullet is very good for deer, but European companies seldom bother to load it, their loads are more appropriately loaded with 150-175 grain bullets.
I took a little moose last year with my Brno 22F and Norma 175 gr. factory loads, at a little over 200 yds if that matters.
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Longwalker said:
I question why you would choose a 140 gr. in the 7x57 for moose. The 7MM mauser was designed for 173-176 gr. bullets, and still works best with the heavy weights. The long throat and fast twists is usually more accurate with long heavy bullets, and for big critters heavy bullets generally penetrate better too.
The 140 grain bullet is very good for deer, but European companies seldom bother to load it, their loads are more appropriately loaded with 150-175 grain bullets.
I took a little moose last year with my Brno 22F and Norma 175 gr. factory loads, at a little over 200 yds if that matters.
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I'm tending to agree with you on this one.
Cartridges from the 1900's era often like a longer heavy bullet; I've read anyhow, no expert.
I wonder if it's the rate of twist that likes the longer bullet?
 
Longwalker said:
I question why you would choose a 140 gr. in the 7x57 for moose. The 7MM mauser was designed for 173-176 gr. bullets, and still works best with the heavy weights. The long throat and fast twists is usually more accurate with long heavy bullets, and for big critters heavy bullets generally penetrate better too.
The 140 grain bullet is very good for deer, but European companies seldom bother to load it, their loads are more appropriately loaded with 150-175 grain bullets.
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Very true. Europeans generally use the heavy bullets in any given caliber, whereas here in North America we seem to be mesmerized by using the ones which give the flattest trajectory/highest velocity, in other words as light as possible.
 
Eagleye said:
I have shot 8 moose with the 7x57 [one of my all-time favorite chamberings] I shot them from 40 yards right out to 340. Never had to shoot one twice. I have used the 140 Partition at between 2750 and 2900 fps. The 7x57 is mild-mannered and very effective. Just take that 7x57 and go moose hunting. No Problem!! Regards, Eagleye.
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Eagleye, I'm starting to think you always have good advice. :cheers:
 
"I question why you would choose a 140 gr. in the 7x57 for moose."

This particular rifle, a 1955 Husqvarna 4100 Lightweight has been tested by the previous owner and does not like the heavier bullets. Another owner of the same model rifle has told me the same thing.

Without a moose or elk LEH permit this year I shall be primarily deer hunting anyway, with "just in case" moose and elk tags in my pocket should I encounter the rare as unicorns spike-fork moose or six-point elk.

That's why.
 
More then enough. My .270win Husky has taken moose elk deer and all with 135gr. Moose are babies we hunt them with .243 up here as well. Elk just a well placed shot and no worries
 
7x57 with 175gr Nosler Partitions is one of the coolest hammers i have in my outfit.

Kills with authority, very little recoil and i've never had a critter tell me it noticed that the bullet wasnt doing 3,000fps....... aaannnd with a B&C or similar reticle in my scope that long old 175 reaches way out there.
 
I am a long time fan of the 7 X 57 - being using a Brno for the last couple of years. Would prefer the heavier 160 or 162 grain bullet for elk or moose. If you can drop them with a 140 gr don't change anything. I use a 160 Partition on everything.
 
Longwalker said:
I question why you would choose a 140 gr. in the 7x57 for moose. The 7MM mauser was designed for 173-176 gr. bullets, and still works best with the heavy weights. The long throat and fast twists is usually more accurate with long heavy bullets, and for big critters heavy bullets generally penetrate better too.
The 140 grain bullet is very good for deer, but European companies seldom bother to load it, their loads are more appropriately loaded with 150-175 grain bullets.
I took a little moose last year with my Brno 22F and Norma 175 gr. factory loads, at a little over 200 yds if that matters.
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That is a sweet little full stock in that photo, complete with "butterknife bolt handle". That photo has caused me to breech 2 commandments at the same time.......coveting and envy. Without stealing the thread to badly could you give us a little more info about your gorgeous little carbine?
 
Sure, with apologies to the OP - I don't mind showing off my rifle a bit...

It is a Brno 22F 1949 model, double square bridge receiver. Mounted a Leupold 2.5x compact in original Brno skeleton QD mount and Leupold rings. I also have a Leupld 6x compact in another QD mount for open country shooting. It has been worked over by Ralf Martini, who replaced the original double set trigger and bottom metal with a Recknagel single trigger and replaced the bolt shroud/ safety with a Dakota M70 style 3 position side swing safety. He also installed a new rubber butt plate curved to the original stock lines to add 1/4" to LOP. I have retained all the original parts and it can be re-assembled as factory original.

It shoots good with all bullet weights, but a little better with 160-175 gr. bullets. It handles like a dream.

To the OP, I hope my comments about heavy bullets for the 7x57 were taken in the spirit intended, I did not mean to be critical, and I do use light bullets on occasion. For example, I killed a mule deer last fall with a Norma 150 gr. from my Ruger K1A 7x57 and a nice whitetail with this rifle and a 140 grain bullet last year.
 
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