8.5" barreled 870 ((Big Pics))

"whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and"

Swapping out factory parts doesn't count as "any other alteration", and because it says "AND", if the first part isn't true, you can ignore all the rest.

Gotta love the way our laws are worded.

-Jamie M.
 
(ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,

An after market manufactured barrel that is put on a firearm I take it is not “adapted?” What is the CFC's/RCMP'S definition of adapted?:confused:
 
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An after market manufactured barrel that is put on a firearm I take it is not “adapted?” What is the CFC's/RCMP'S definition of adapted?:confused:
 
MPI said:
An after market manufactured barrel that is put on a firearm I take it is not “adapted?” What is the CFC's/RCMP'S definition of adapted?:confused:
Adapted = modified
Modified = YOU doing something (cutting the stock down, etc.)
Factory Part Swapping = Factory Customization ;)

It's screwed, I know. It doesn't have to make sense.

-Jamie M.
 
sxyglock17 said:
Adapted = modified
Modified = YOU doing something (cutting the stock down, etc.)
Factory Part Swapping = Factory Customization ;)

It's screwed, I know. It doesn't have to make sense.

-Jamie M.
Got it. thanks:)
 
you are only partially reading it

(b) a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted

doesn't stop there. AND when it is adapted from these modification the firearm is now...

(i) is less than 660 mm in length, or

(ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,

restricted is less than 660mm in OAL. so when you do anything to drop the OAl to less than 660,, it is now an illegal firearm, not restricted.
 
Unfortunatly, that's not the case.

The wording legally means:

If A is true AND B is true then...

So because A isn't true, then B doesn't matter, because AND means BOTH of them have to be true.

Trust me. I went through all this with my 6.5" rem 870 converting it to restricted, and my restricted krinker plinker... That's how it is.

-Jamie M.
 
http://www.questar.ca/deals/Krink.htm

questar said:
IMPORTANT: Canadian regulations define a "Restricted" firearm as: "A firearm that can fire after being reduced, by folding, telescoping or otherwise, to an overall length of less than 660 mm". The newly designed Canadian Version Krinker-Plinker kit includes a ready to install "pin" that can be inserted into the suppressor can that permanently fixes it to the barrel and complies with CFC requirements to maintain the "Non-Restricted" status of your firearm. If you choose not to install this "pin" then you are legally required to have the firearm re-registered. (..as restricted..)

I'm sure lots of people have built them as restricted.

-Jamie M.
 
P0WERWAGON said:
no sorry. it means if B is true creating i or ii then it is prohibitted.
Where is the word IF in the statement:

(b) a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,
(i) is less than 660 mm in length, or
(ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,

You can't assume it means IF when it says AND.

-Jamie M.
 
Look Questar wouldnt sell Krinker kits telling people they can make there 10/22's into restricted with short factory barrels if it wasnt true, and neither would Dlask. I already asked Dlask a long time ago about making me a shorty and they said no problem, I am just looking for a great deal on a 870 to make restricted now, that and I am broke!
 
"prohibited firearm" means either A B or C.

the IF is just something i said. the law doesn't say it. sorry IF you missunderstood what i wrote.

If you choose not to install this "pin" then you are legally required to have the firearm re-registered. (..as restricted..)

please produce a FRT for this so i can call the RCMP expert back and tell him he told me a line of BS.
 
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