8 shot N frame vs 6 shot L frame

627 v-comp vs 686 competitor

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Kevlemarin

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Hey guys, I am new around here.

I have read just about everything I can find on S&W revolver in N & L frame.
More particularly, I really like the look of the 686 competitor and the 627 v-comp.
I do not mind the high price of either one. They both are top quality, and should last this lifetime and the next.

In Canada, the argument of having more bullet in the gun is useless, as we can only use them at the range.

Not having shot either one, I am looking for someone who has already shot both to tell me their preference on the matter.


Cheers and thanks you
 
I want to shoot at the range once in awhile, speedloading and moon clip could technically be nice, but not entirely necessary
 
I have pretty small hands and the N-frames in general feel a little big for my liking. That being said I love the VCOMP. They are super accurate, fast with moon clips (TKCustom are the best) but can still be used without them. I find they are really easy to shoot well and most of my revolver shooting is in double action. As an added bonus I found out that my k/l frame hogue grips fit making it much more comfortable for me.

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If your going to shoot a lot of 357, the comp on the v comp makes a big difference in muzzle flip, but adds a lot of blast and noise to the shooting stall and those around you, especially if you shoot indoors. I do like the two tone look, and the one i shot shoots well.

Personally, i'd rather have the 7 shot 686 pro or the 627 for range or competition use. Actually, i'd rather have a 629 in 8 shot 9mm. cheaper ammo and the titanium cylinders lack of weight really improves the double action stroke on the trigger.

Either way, none of the top end smith guns are going to let you down.
 
For many of us a big part of hand gun ownership is the ability to use the guns in the action style competitions. Many of those restrict the guns used in the revolver classes to only 6 shots. You can use a gun which holds more but if you lose count and shoot more than 6 you end up with a procedural penalty. So all in all you may want to hedge your bets and buy a revolver that only holds 6 to start with.

If you're not participating in some of these matches you really should look into them. When we're new to all this stuff just standing still and perforating paper at our own speed is OK. But it get's pretty boring after a while. Even a new gun only gets the juices flowing again for a few sessions. But once you start shooting in the various matches the fun of shooting returns in buckets. Plus you get to joke around with a bunch of like minded folks for a day.

So before you just post that "those games aren't for me" I suggest you look into what is being held in your area and attend a meet of each style even if it's only as a spectator. You'll also get more out of it if you show up at the start of the day and connect with a squad and go around with them for the day. Ask questions and help with patching and generall act like you're one of the crew. Without a doubt by the end of the day you'll have gotten offers to use their guns and get run through a stage to try it out before they pack up the targets.
 
686 competitor no argument:
  • It has more barrel
  • It has weights you can put on or off and balance it whatever you like. Or remove all and make it lighter
  • VCOMP is louder, but I doubt Competitor will flip significantly more (if not less) just due to longer barrel and weights.
  • N frame of 627 is unnecessary too big of for 357. Just more useless space in front of cylinder.
  • Competitor has pic rail on top, if you happen to like optics its neat. With VCOMP you can't even try optics on a stock gun

Both are huge beyond anything but a range fun. Both are IPSC legal, both are IDPA illegal. Competitor is just a bit more of a pure range fun setup.
 
You have your title backwards: should be 8 shot L frame vs 6 shot N frame?
My take is to skip both of those "outworlders" not just because of price, but both have inherent limitations that would take you out of formal & informal competition.
Buy a revolver that touches every discipline. Choices include S&W's standard 586 or 686. Ruger's GP100.
 
What I have found is that the very best way is to find a way to shoot both of the guns, for that matter shoot as many different guns that you can. That is the only real way you will find out what you like and what you don't.

There is no exception to that rule,don't buy what other people like. Buy what you like.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to other people and hear there thoughts on the matter. My experience is that a lot of people give advise on guns that they have never used or for that matter never even held.

Just my two cents worth.

Graydog
 
owlowl said:
686 competitor no argument:
  • It has more barrel
  • It has weights you can put on or off and balance it whatever you like. Or remove all and make it lighter
  • VCOMP is louder, but I doubt Competitor will flip significantly more (if not less) just due to longer barrel and weights.
  • N frame of 627 is unnecessary too big of for 357. Just more useless space in front of cylinder.
  • Competitor has pic rail on top, if you happen to like optics its neat. With VCOMP you can't even try optics on a stock gun

Both are huge beyond anything but a range fun. Both are IPSC legal, both are IDPA illegal. Competitor is just a bit more of a pure range fun setup.
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Thanks for you great answer
 
graydog said:
What I have found is that the very best way is to find a way to shoot both of the guns, for that matter shoot as many different guns that you can. That is the only real way you will find out what you like and what you don't.

There is no exception to that rule,don't buy what other people like. Buy what you like.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to other people and hear there thoughts on the matter. My experience is that a lot of people give advise on guns that they have never used or for that matter never even held.

Just my two cents worth.

Graydog
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I am totally wih you on this, I would sure love to be able to shoot them both, or more than just them 2.
I am a sailor, and not too often home. I am limited by my ability to hit the range more often that I would like
 
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