80% AR lower

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Looking at picking up an 80% ar lower from dlask arms. Seems like a good Canadian manufacturer.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever finished an 80% ar lower before and how much work was it? Most 80% lowers require milling but the dlask piece only requires tapping and drilling. Should be able to complete in my garage.

The only other issue is getting the lower hard anodized once complete. There's a chance the shop I take it to says something to the authorities after I drop it off.

Anyone have any experience with these?
 
rivetc78 said:
Why would that matter? Do you not have your R-PAL?

If you are worried then something is fishy here
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Really? Is this how it is here at CGN now? We have to "kinda-sorta-hint-hint" that other members may not be 100% by the book just because of a veague question? And why care? Just answer the question he asked...or say nothing.

Example:

After you complete the lower (or I guess, as soon as you have "intent" to complete the lower) register it. Get an ATT, THEN take it to the shop to put a finish on it. It won't matter who they call then.
 
Once the lower is completed you have to register it and once it is a restricted firearm, you won't be able to get a SATT to transport it to metal finisher unless they are licensed to handle restricted firearms.

Doing anything outside the box is potentially illegal. :)
 
hbean said:
Once the lower is completed you have to register it and once it is a restricted firearm, you won't be able to get a SATT to transport it to metal finisher unless they are licensed to handle restricted firearms.

Doing anything outside the box is potentially illegal. :)
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That's correct.
Once you have registered as a firearm,
you can anodize it via a firearm business.
 
Do all your drilling, buffer tube and grip screw tapping, etc, EXCEPT for the drilling of the hammer pin and trigger pin holes. Then get the lower anodized. Drill them after- they are small - 3/32" and are not under any stress. No big deal if they're not ano'd on the inside. Technically its not a firearm until it can fire and it can't fire without those holes...
 
My 2 cents. I am also interested in trying to complete one, have done a 10/22 80% wasn't too bad. My understanding of the law is that it isn't a firearm the receiver is complete enough to be able to discharge a bullet (ie: until you can add an upper basically I guess... Safe thing to do is to contact the CFC or RCMP and double check that). My point is Maybe you can get the messy milling out of the way and anodize it before finishing the side holes. With my 10/22 I had the barrel hole milled out then anodized it, and the rest I was able to do without damaging the finish. Also you can parkerize it in your kitchen stove if you want a nice black finish.

Here's from CFC on what constitutes a firearm:
* a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes
* any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon, as well as
* anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm.

Anyways, maybe I am right out to lunch on that.
 
I could be wrong, but I thought the whole 80% lower was an American thing.

Isn't it the law in Canada that you need to register a frame once it is capable of discharging a projectile? In this case of an AR lower, I think that would mean once the lower is complete as a stripped lower (i.e. ready for a lower parts kit ot be installed)

In that sense, could you have a "99%" lower which is waiting for that last hole to be drilled?
 
Walther_PPK said:
Really? Is this how it is here at CGN now? We have to "kinda-sorta-hint-hint" that other members may not be 100% by the book just because of a veague question? And why care? Just answer the question he asked...or say nothing.

Amen! Once again anonymous internet trolls have hijacked a question about finishing to being about perceived legal stuff. This is happening FAR too often on GunNutz. We have moderators for a reason. Let them do their thing.
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I couldnt remember what it was for aluminum for blacking it easily, but after a quick lookup it was black oxide for aluminum or alloys. you can get a kit from birchwood casey. then its 100% DIY receiver.
 
DLask told me directly that the RCMP are thinking of closing the door on the 80% as we know it. He said they may make you register it from Dlask from the get go or kill it all together.

They are perfectly legal until you have "intent" to finish it. So basically, if you look at it during diner with a butter knife in your hand...

Get them while you can!



shatthatkilledelvis said:
Whats changing? I haven't heard anything...



But it won't work in this case because you can't "park" aluminum...
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DLask is the only source left in Canada, I may be wrong. I think one dealer here had them but they were closer to 60-70% if I recall. The Dlask lowers are awesome quality.
 
This might be slightly off-topic for this post, but...

When tapping the buffer tube mount, how should one mount the lower?

I have been thinking of machining a complete lower from raw stock, and I figured that one of the first things I would do after facing the block would be to center-drill the location of the buffer tube on the mill, than transfer to a 4-jaw on a lathe and bore and tap to finished dimensions. I assumed that this would be okay since any movement after machining the rest of the part should be within acceptable levels. This also simplifies holding the part.

Now, if I need to hold an 80% lower in order to tap it on a machine, how do I go about that? I assume that this is something you do not want to do by hand, and milling up fixtures would be a pain, no?
 
Pocketfisherman said:
DLask told me directly that the RCMP are thinking of closing the door on the 80% as we know it. He said they may make you register it from Dlask from the get go or kill it all together.

They are perfectly legal until you have "intent" to finish it. So basically, if you look at it during diner with a butter knife in your hand...

Get them while you can!
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Are they going to make us register chunks of railroad track and steel tubing, too?
 
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