858's not being imported any more?

rally guy said:
My 858 had a gremlin once, I just re tension the sear spring and I never gad a problem since; it took one minute.

....could 958 be the new BREN cz?
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Praise the lord! PRAISE!
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Sorry, I'm not getting what the issue is. The VZ58 is still freely available, it's only the CZ858 that is affected. Sure it's slightly different, but it's not the end of the world if you want a CZ858 like firearm?
 
superlative said:
Sorry, I'm not getting what the issue is. The VZ58 is still freely available, it's only the CZ858 that is affected. Sure it's slightly different, but it's not the end of the world if you want a CZ858 like firearm?
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VZ58: sucky quality, have no time to waste on stupid failures!

CZ858: kick ass
 
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superlative said:
Sorry, I'm not getting what the issue is. The VZ58 is still freely available, it's only the CZ858 that is affected. Sure it's slightly different, but it's not the end of the world if you want a CZ858 like firearm?
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The selector on the csa guns works the qrong way, its slow to disengage.

Tdc
 
big_boss said:
WHAT? How could they know who's got an NR? Or are they seizing them when found shooting?
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Not sure. Going by this statement.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/992890-Cz-858-2 (Post #80)

ghostie said:
Hello guys,

I'm a lawyer in Vancouver who is working on this issue along with the NFA, both on behalf of individual clients, and generally.

The CZ 858 Tactical 2, FRT# 123599-1, is listed as a non-restricted semi-automatic firearm. That is the 19" barrel model (483mm).

The 15.5" barrel model (394mm) continues to be listed as restricted (FRT#123599-3).

Thre are many other names and FRT# however.

Yes, the RCMP have seized some firearms and claimed that they are prohibited. What they have handed out is a copy of the printout for FRT# 142362-2, the "CZ 858 Tactical 2 P". The "2P" is listed as a "Full Automatic" firearm, saying in the notes "can be converted to a full automatic firearm in a relatively short period of time with relative ease."

The problem with all this is that the FRT description for the "Tactical 2" (the non-res) says " "CZ 858 TACTICAL - 2 P" or CZ 858 TACTICAL -2 V" is marked on the left side of the reciever/frame. "P" denotes a factory installed fixed buttstock, and "V" denotes a factory installed folding buttstock." The FRT notes for FRT# 142362-2 (the prohib) say something very similar (minus the stuff about the "V" folding stock).

So, what I am trying to determine right now is... which firearms are prohibited and which are not, and what - precisely - causes a firearm to fall within one FRT description or another. Clearly, being marked "2 P" or "2 V" is not determinative of anything.

I'm hopefully going to be able to work with the importers and other in the firearms industry to get to the bottom of this, because, yes, some people have had firearms seized and have been threatened with prosecution. I personally feel that there is no risk of that as, at this point, how would anybody know what they have or don't have? You have to knowingly possess a prohibited firearm in order to be guilty of anything. But that is not the point. The RCMP have created a hell of a mess here, and it is going to be left to the courts and/or the government to clean this up.
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Haven't you heard? They stormed Mike in Canmore's place because he had a big arsenal of "assault weapons". Some had deadly bayonets on them too. And airguns, combat knives, a crossbow, thousands of rounds of ammo, several pounds of explosive powder. A real menace to public safety.
 
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Haven't you heard? They stormed Mike in Canmore's place because he had a big arsenal of "assault weapons". Some had deadly bayonets on them too. And airguns, combat knives, a crossbow, thousands of rounds of ammo, several pounds of explosive powder. A real menace to public safety.
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poor mike and with all his boat accident ...
 
So I don't understand this.
Why isn't there something official out stating that this is a prohibited rifle? There are thousands of these non-restricted rifles in Canada. I want an official statement from the RCMP ASAP or as least a communique from the NFA on this. Otherwise until I hear from an official source differently, I'm sorry but mine is non-restricted and I have the old registration card proving that, how can I know officially that my rifle is now suddenly prohibited when I have the old official proof that it's a non-restricted? This is ridiculous and absurd.
 
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