870 Police or XCS MM???
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I've had my MM since 1997. Not a speck of rust on it. I've had it in the rain and snow, brought it inside from -35C. If moisture is your concern, the MM is the only way to go. I'd feel more comfortable handling these new model's first. If you can, ask them to bring out 2 from the back and give them a good once over.
pazzo said:
Well Pazzo, you and I both live on the west coast and you know as well as me what happens to any gear left out side even on a clear warm night... it is completely soaked by morning from condensation alone.
I do some serious and remote trips up the coast every summer by canoe, last year I crossed Johnston Strait by canoe and was tenting it for three weeks strait as I headed North up the mainland side of Queen Charlotte Strait.
My shotgun is essential on those kinds of trips because there is no help if you run into trouble and if you did, your best hope is that your VHF radio can reach a fishing boat or cruise ship that might be passing with in range.
On that trip last year my winchester defender (model 1300) was only out of it's case once I was off the water and had found a camp spot for the night. When I went to sleep it came inside the tent with me and after loading up the canoe the following morning, it was unloaded and packed back away in it's case.
All this to say that I probably put my shotgun through more salt water air exposure in three weeks than most people would in ten years and my experience is... that three days was about the longest it could take before spots of rust began appearing on the barrel and breach.
Yes you can keep your shotgun well oiled to help minimize this but I found out quickly that too much oil quickly became a detriment and actually helped the rust along by concentrating the dampness in larger drops.
If you only intend to take your shotgun along for shorter camping trips, as an activity to play with during the day, shooting tin cans or phone books for practice, then throwing it in the trunk of the car, then I would be very happy with the Police model.
If on the other hand you need your shotgun for one week or longer tenting trips, as a tool to be used only when needed, then the marine magnum is simply the best option there is.
Hope this helps!
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well, that about explains it. i'm confused cause i don't like dealing w/ b/s like possible rust, when i have (or had) the opportunity to prevent it by purchasing a different model. somebody just told me that the Police model has an improv cyl choke, as opposed to the MM's cyl choke, and is better for tighter groups?
i thought both models came w/ the standard Cyl Bore, suitable for slugs??
i thought both models came w/ the standard Cyl Bore, suitable for slugs??
i also read now that Rem changed the Police models to 18.5" barrels??? why would they do this? the guy said it had something to do w/ the bayonet and the older police models having the extension sticking out a 1/2" further than the barrel. so they rectified this by now making 18.5" barrels...
is this person correct?
is this person correct?
well, i've spent the last several hrs researching on many forums, and it seems that w/ the right care the Police model should suffice. there's tonnes of threads relating to how good the fit/ finish is compared to the other models. and the improved cylinder choke is supposedly a bit better for shooting slugs!? well, so i read...
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I've used an 870P for two week straight in the field (one of those weeks was under constant West Coast spring time rain). Only oil that was on it was a very light coat of simple, plain old Outers gun oil (with no additives, etc...). This was applied only once, a few days before use. At the end of each day, it was locked up in a hard case - wet or dry, with no time for a wipe down. At the end of the two weeks, there were definately rust spots on it, but it was all surface. A little bit of 000 steel wool and more oil cleaned it up good as new. The 870P is parkerized, which is a finish that is made to "hold" oil. Just as are a majority of the firearms produced for the military/law enforcement market. If you take the normal precaution of properly/regularly oiling it down (preferably with one of the newer protective lubricants available on the market), it should fare pretty well in all but the "saltiest" environments.
Just my $.02
Cheers,
hsld.
Just my $.02
Cheers,
hsld.
