8mm mauser recoil reduction advice needed

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hey everyone, i got my yugo m48 from marstar and after spending some time getting the cosmoline out of the stock (mostly) i took it out for a test run. it works just fine but the metal buttplace not only slips from the shoulder, but when it does stay in place it tends to make the shoulder ache for the rest of the day and some of the next. i realize that these were designed to crack skulls and save the butt of the stock, but i'm not particularly concerned with either, i like my shoulder more. any advice on how to effectively combat the horrendous recoil? will a gelatin pad help any? thx alot !
 
Well, you COULD try shooting something with less recoil...... Carcanos are nice, believe it or not. Rosses are fun. Even the old SMLE came in 4 different butt lengths to accomodate soldiers to its rather mild recoil.

But, being just a little less snarky, I will admit that once upon a time I had the same problem myself. Problem is that a lot of the 8x57 loads on the market these days, notably almost all of the surplus and most of the European stuff, is based on the World War One ANTI-TANK loading, which originally was regarded as far too hot for rifles and was restricted to Maxim Gun teams. It was that nice Mr. Hitler who decided that everybody should use the anti-tank loading, and so you can thank him for your sore shoulder.

Try using a Hornady 150-grain spirepoint bullet ahead of a reasonable charge of something like H4895. Seat the bullet so the cannelure shows: lowers chamber pressures, reduces recoil and aids accuracy, all at the same time.

You'll have a lot of fun and you will start seeing some of the accuracy of which your rifle is capable.... and it is capable of a lot.

Shooting should be fun, so HAVE FUN!
 
What sort of ammo are you shooting, hot handloads? I can't imagine "horrendous" recoil in a stock M48 from normal commercial or milsurp ammo.

You can get a slip on recoil pad, or one worn on the shoulder to reduce the felt recoil. With those options, you don't have to bubba the rifle to install a pad.

Problem is that a lot of the 8x57 loads on the market these days, notably almost all of the surplus and most of the European stuff, is based on the World War One ANTI-TANK loading, which originally was regarded as far too hot for rifles and was restricted to Maxim Gun teams. It was that nice Mr. Hitler who decided that everybody should use the anti-tank loading, and so you can thank him for your sore shoulder.
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Got a reference for this claim? 8x57 was not used in AT rifles.
 
My K98K has one 'bubba' feature, a rubber buttplate. I shoot it with my little cousin, my father, etc. I put 60-100 rounds of surplus through it at a time. A joy to shoot.

My bro-in-laws M48 with the steel buttplate, less fun to shoot.

Throw a decellerator (sp?) on it.
 
hmm, the ammo i used was the "Bell" brand bosnian made factory load. it did seem pretty hot. i'm assuming this is identical to Igman stuff, but almost twice the money for some reason. anyway, i guess i'll just slip something over the buttplate. better than nothing.
 
The 7.92 AT round was the 7.92X94. To the best of my knowledge there was never a 7.92x57 AT round, AP yes. The latest 7.92X57 loading with 196/198 grain bullet is not that hot by modern standards.
 
If you want to keep the gun original looking, you can also try a past shooting vest with recoil pad built right in.
 
if you're still using the skinny mauser issue stock, i can see your point- i fired some of that 196 grain stuff through mine and one or 2 sessions was enough for me- change down to the 150-170 commercial or put a better( more substantial stock ) on it- something with more meat in the buttstock- mine was a laminate blonde job- very late war
 
Or grow some chest hair??? The 8mm Mauser kicks less than a .30-06 and I can shoot '06 all day long in Springfields that weight less and kick harder without problems - and I'm a skinny little 170 lbs runt.

In comparrison, Igman, Bell, and FN made surplus that I have on hand all shoots like a pussycat...
 
EDIT: You aren;t shooting it prone are you? If so, I would suggest your technique might be wrong. ALOT of people shoot in-line with the rifle in prone with the effect of magnifying recoil. You should be lying 15-30 degrees off the center-line so your trunk flexes and absorbs some of the shock.
 
I've fired a few 8mm mausers, and while the steel buttplate isn't the most comfortable thing in the world, it doesn't bother me. Try a Nagant carbine one day, with it's steel plate. Or my H&R Buffalo gun, stout 45-70's and a steel plate.

Maybe spend some more time practicing with lighter-recoiling guns first?
 
prosper said:
I've fired a few 8mm mausers, and while the steel buttplate isn't the most comfortable thing in the world, it doesn't bother me. Try a Nagant carbine one day, with it's steel plate. Or my H&R Buffalo gun, stout 45-70's and a steel plate.

Maybe spend some more time practicing with lighter-recoiling guns first?
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Even a Lee Enfield #5!!
 
I find the nagant carbine, and the m91 easy to shoot with full house loads. I noticed though that if you don't have allot of meat around your sholder area that it will hurt. Also lighter people sort of roll with the recoil. Definately try a slip on recoil pad. I like how most milsuprs sholder, and am not a fan of sticky butplates that stick to your clothes ect.
 
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