Hey guys, any opinions on 8mm Turkish Mausers,good or bad, this will be my first milsurp, and am not looking for a colectable as of yet. I just want a shooter, so not really concerned with matching #, or perfect wood. My local gun shop, has a pallet of them, $60.00 u.s. each. The wood is not the best, but a refinish job would do the trick, for my purposes. Any thoughts would be apreciated, Thanks.
8mm turkish Mauser
- Thread starter Porkert
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- West coast of Vancouver Island
Hello in Atlanta,
What model are these rifles? All these were not created equal, some are crap and others are good cheap rifles.
Check out,
http://www.turkmauser.com/
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/surplusrifle?forum=4881
Good information available from these sources.
SW
What model are these rifles? All these were not created equal, some are crap and others are good cheap rifles.
Check out,
http://www.turkmauser.com/
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/surplusrifle?forum=4881
Good information available from these sources.
SW
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Check out this link, http://www.samcoglobal.com/rifles.html
Look at the barrelled actions, there are some good deals to be had. The Persian stuff is high end, like new. The Swedish stuff is beautiful and don't discount the DWM built '95 Chileans. I don't care for the Yugo stuff, but check out the 98/29's they can be pretty smooth. Phone up and see what is available, sometimes you can pick up a jewel.
Look at the barrelled actions, there are some good deals to be had. The Persian stuff is high end, like new. The Swedish stuff is beautiful and don't discount the DWM built '95 Chileans. I don't care for the Yugo stuff, but check out the 98/29's they can be pretty smooth. Phone up and see what is available, sometimes you can pick up a jewel.
Good Grief, For $60 and he has a pallet of them!! Maybe he will let you pick one out yourself. Ain't got nuthin' to lose (cep 60 bucks) and that can be lost pretty quick at the Nudie Bar. You may just buy yourself a great winter project.
Thank's for the info, and web links, i think i'll go pick one up, hell i have wasted $60.00 on worse!! I'll keep ya'll informed, might turn into a good restoration,or sporter project, if nothing else, it could become a great "Lamp" project for the gun room, that could be interesting....
- Location
- Tucson, Arizona
the only thing you should really check is bore condition. A few are real sewer pipes while others are OK. What surprises me is the quality of the wood on these. So at least run a patch through the bore before you pick one.
Sorry to butt in here....
Now I'm a complete newb to anything milsurp, so excuse my ignorance.... I just purchased a Turkish Mauser reciever with a different stock than what I've seen on other k98 Mausers. AND I have a couple questions....
- Will a stock off a different k98 (like here: http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=&chrSuperSKU=954680) fit my reciever?
- Finally, I've got some pics of the new beast (below), can anyone narrow down the year/specific model or anything? Pretty much any insight would be useful.
Thanks in advance!!
Shawn
Now I'm a complete newb to anything milsurp, so excuse my ignorance.... I just purchased a Turkish Mauser reciever with a different stock than what I've seen on other k98 Mausers. AND I have a couple questions....
- Will a stock off a different k98 (like here: http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=&chrSuperSKU=954680) fit my reciever?
- Finally, I've got some pics of the new beast (below), can anyone narrow down the year/specific model or anything? Pretty much any insight would be useful.
Thanks in advance!!
Shawn
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Look at the the front of the receiver where the barrel screws in, is there a lip or recess there? You have a '98, your triggerguard suggests German origin. Measure your stepped military barrel thread to thread should be .980"
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8mm Turk
Stopped by to take another look at the 8mm Turks, and one followed me home, got to pick through the pallet, and found one with some pretty decent wood, and a good bit of finish on the metal. She is a 1944 ,model 1938 ,K. Hale ,receiver marked with T.C, ASFA,ANK ARA, K.HALE, ATF. I will Post some pics soon. Any tips for striping her down for a good cleaning would be apreciated ( there is a Bolt on the left side , just under the receiver, and on the other side it looks like a pin inside of a washer, with two holes in it.) Is there a special tool, or any tricks to deal with this??I'll include this in the pics. Thanks for all the help for a Milsurp Newbie..
Stopped by to take another look at the 8mm Turks, and one followed me home, got to pick through the pallet, and found one with some pretty decent wood, and a good bit of finish on the metal. She is a 1944 ,model 1938 ,K. Hale ,receiver marked with T.C, ASFA,ANK ARA, K.HALE, ATF. I will Post some pics soon. Any tips for striping her down for a good cleaning would be apreciated ( there is a Bolt on the left side , just under the receiver, and on the other side it looks like a pin inside of a washer, with two holes in it.) Is there a special tool, or any tricks to deal with this??I'll include this in the pics. Thanks for all the help for a Milsurp Newbie..
That sounds like the cross bolt,to take it apart you don't need to undo it.K.Kales were some of the the best of that breed. here's some thing http://mfrc.sizzlyhosting.com/
Try this link for disassembly and reassembly, http://www.surplusrifle.com/mauserturkish/rifledisassembly/index.asp
Sometimes the Turks used nails and screws (usually brass) to hold the bands in place. Don't be surprised to find sand and debris between the barrel and stock. The Turks didn't clean their rifles particularly well and used corrosive ammo, so clean the bore, the odd pit will not affect accuracy.
Sometimes the Turks used nails and screws (usually brass) to hold the bands in place. Don't be surprised to find sand and debris between the barrel and stock. The Turks didn't clean their rifles particularly well and used corrosive ammo, so clean the bore, the odd pit will not affect accuracy.
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PerversPépère
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Porkert, I have something very similar to your Mauser.
The bolt under the receiver is the recoil lug abutment. Don't take it apart, you'll only risk breaking it and it doesn't need to be removed to take the barreled action out of the stock.
The letters on the receiver mean that it is an M-38 Short Rifle or M-98/37, re-manufactured in 1944 from a German Gewehr-98 action in the Turk government's arsenals A.S.F.A. in ANKARA.
KKALE and ATF mean it was re-arsenaled or refurbished by the KIRRIKALE arsenals.
These conversions took place from 1937 to 1949.
If you check the muzzle, there is usually a 1/2" counterbore that was applied to every Turk Mauser to prevent damage to the rifling.
These Turk Mausers are very often excellent shooters.
PP.
The bolt under the receiver is the recoil lug abutment. Don't take it apart, you'll only risk breaking it and it doesn't need to be removed to take the barreled action out of the stock.
The letters on the receiver mean that it is an M-38 Short Rifle or M-98/37, re-manufactured in 1944 from a German Gewehr-98 action in the Turk government's arsenals A.S.F.A. in ANKARA.
KKALE and ATF mean it was re-arsenaled or refurbished by the KIRRIKALE arsenals.
These conversions took place from 1937 to 1949.
If you check the muzzle, there is usually a 1/2" counterbore that was applied to every Turk Mauser to prevent damage to the rifling.
These Turk Mausers are very often excellent shooters.
PP.
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