8mm Why ? Should I have one?

nowarningshot said:
...plus it is a metric designation of a former enemy country.
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How is that even relevant in deciding a caliber?

With that logic, you should stop using any and all electronic calculating devices. That includes your computer. Because it's a former enemies technology. By using this forum, you are a hypocrite. Also, you should not fly anywhere in a jet aircraft. That's a former enemies technology too. The list goes on...
 
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BeaverMeat said:
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How is that even relevant in deciding a caliber?

With that logic, you should stop using any and all electronic calculating devices. That includes your computer. Because it's a former enemies technology. By using this forum, you are a hypocrite. Also, you should not fly anywhere in a jet aircraft. That's a former enemies technology too. The list goes on...
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Reading comprehension FTW. I believe he was trying to say why it is not popular in the US, not how he personally decides on the suitability of a cartridge.

The Americans tend to shy away from metric designations (aside from the NATO designations the only widely popular cartridge in the US with a metric designation is the 7mm RM). Also cartridges from former enemies tend not to be to widespread because post war the cheap avaliability of surplus cartridges and rifles, .30-06 and .303 over here, means the majority ignore the less widespread cartridge of the former enemy. (Hence why many Mausers were rechambered to 8mm-06, not because of fear of using an enemy cartridge, but because of the avaliability of the 06.)
 
Douglas;

Just wanting it is reason enough. If I were you I'd just pick a high-end, perhaps vintage Euro gun in 8 x 68S and be done with it.

My brother in law used a Heym 8 x 68 for a couple of decades. If it wasn't left-handed I would have swindled that away from him years ago.
 
For those who are uncomfortable with going against the grain and thinking outside-the-box, it's understandable. Why try something different?

I prefer the odd-ball stuff. Not that I find it superior. I just like the confused "wtf is that" expression on peoples faces and getting crap for not sticking with the norm. It amuses me. Popularitay does not dictate effectiveness or performance of a cartridge.

I am sticking with my metrics. 7.62x39, 6.5x55, 7x57, 8x57, and 9.3x62. Maybe a magnum one day.
 
Dogleg said:
Douglas;

Just wanting it is reason enough. If I were you I'd just pick a high-end, perhaps vintage Euro gun in 8 x 68S and be done with it.

My brother in law used a Heym 8 x 68 for a couple of decades. If it wasn't left-handed I would have swindled that away from him years ago.
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Not a big fan of the Euro style Dogleg, with that humped stock that is supposed to be a monte carlo and the extra skinny cheekpieces for them fat faced Europeans. I have a real love for the classic straight stock design in a full stock, with some Euro touches, like the butterknife bolt handle and double set triggers would be nice............
 
I've never been an 8mm fan, perhaps due to my confusion of the S and JS 8X57 designations, which I have long since sorted out, but not my negative feelings. Askins was fond of the 8mm Magnum, but then again he was enamored with belts on bottleneck cartridges too, but not the .30/06. What can you say about anyone who doesn't like the .30/06.:stirthepot2: As to the holes in your collection, I'm sure you have a 73 Winchester in .32-20. I know its a .30 and not an 8mm, but that's as close as you need to get; it'll have .32 stamped on the barrel, or for that matter a 94 in .32 WCF. Of course you have no performance holes in your collection, which is what really matters. Perhaps there is one open spot though; I believe you need a .500 NE. or .500 Jeffery to fill the gap between your .470 and your .50 Browning bolt gun.

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On reflection, I could find happiness with a Winchester High Wall in 32-40.
 
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You have to do what you have to do. If filling that perceived hole is something that you think needs done, then go for it. It is not like you don't have the skills or means. Merry Christmas young fella.
 
I'm an unabashed 8mm fan. Have rifles in 8x57, 8x64, 8mm-06 AI, 8x68, and 8 RM at the moment. I once built a 8mm-378 Wby just because I had read about it in an Askins' article. Eventually used the action for another project. I like the idea of a Mannlicher stocked version of a carbine barrel length 70 or 98 style action in 325, I think it would be a lovely rifle. Hmm. Maybe I need to start collecting more parts. - dan

Oh, I forgot the 8mm PMM (338 Win Mag case necked down to 8mm)
 
I think you should cutivate an intense dislike of the8 mm. It wouldnt make any sense but you dont need it, it would be cheaper and you wouldnt have a gun kicking around distracting from your routine shooting. I myself loathe the 375 h&h or so i tell myself
 
dan belisle said:
I'm an unabashed 8mm fan. Have rifles in 8x57, 8x64, 8mm-06 AI, 8x68, and 8 RM at the moment. I once built a 8mm-378 Wby just because I had read about it in an Askins' article. Eventually used the action for another project. I like the idea of a Mannlicher stocked version of a carbine barrel length 70 or 98 style action in 325, I think it would be a lovely rifle. Hmm. Maybe I need to start collecting more parts. - dan

Oh, I forgot the 8mm PMM (338 Win Mag case necked down to 8mm)
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See now Dan, I was taught that the 8mm PMM was based on the 308 Norma Mag case..........but that may have been just that particular 'smith that I worked with many years ago. He turned many, many VZ24s into what he called the PMM which was on the 308 NM case.
 
porpoise said:
I think you should cutivate an intense dislike of the8 mm. It wouldnt make any sense but you dont need it, it would be cheaper and you wouldnt have a gun kicking around distracting from your routine shooting. I myself loathe the 375 h&h or so i tell myself
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I do not seem able to cultivate an extreme dislike for anything housed in a brass case, propelling a projectile with expanding gases from burning nitrocellulose, ignited by a percussion cap............except anything with a .277 bore !!!!!
 
c-fbmi said:
See now Dan, I was taught that the 8mm PMM was based on the 308 Norma Mag case..........but that may have been just that particular 'smith that I worked with many years ago. He turned many, many VZ24s into what he called the PMM which was on the 308 NM case.
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Could be. Or perhaps I had the American version. It was a very good hunting cartridge though. You have to keep in mind that a lot of these wildcat 8mm's were dreamed up to hotrod WW2 surplus 8mm rifles that Johnny brought back from the war, that he wanted a little more postwar horsepower for. - dan
 
There are some very nice 8mm out there, I am looking for a Brno 22F to go with my 21H. The 1908 Mannlicher is a beautiful little rifle. I have a Gewehrfabrik Danzig rifle build on a Kar98 action that is slim, trim, and beautiful as well. And the Winchester 94 in 32 Special is a fantastic rifle for loafing about the woods.
 
MiG25 said:
There are some very nice 8mm out there, I am looking for a Brno 22F to go with my 21H. The 1908 Mannlicher is a beautiful little rifle. I have a Gewehrfabrik Danzig rifle build on a Kar98 action that is slim, trim, and beautiful as well. And the Winchester 94 in 32 Special is a fantastic rifle for loafing about the woods.
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Well to be honest I do have several 32s in my Winchester collection, but I don't really count them among the 8mm family..........321 vs 323 and all that.......
 
If you're underwhelmed by the 338's, as you've mentioned when comparing them to 30 cals, then I don't think an 8mm will overwhelm you.

The only 8mm that has ever remotely interested me is the 8x68S. I still have a box of ammo somewhere, but never did buy one. :D
 
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