8X63 Swedish Roll Call

You are likely right on that Andy. I bought that ammo before they started offering it without belts. All I have left of the cardboard boxes is a front piece that describes what's in it. That was a while ago. I think I sent you some 8mm Gibbs once fired brass to compare case volume. That would be right after I bought mine.
 
bjmurata said:
Andy,I'll see what I can do about some pictures,I have a Photobucket account but the limiting factor is the ancient,mediocre quality camera I currently own.Might be a good excuse to upgrade as I would like to start posting photos of some of my herd anyway in the various forums.
Getting back to the receiver of my rifle,I can't see any differences in the machining of the feed ramp or anything else for that matter that has had any extra mods done to them.And according to what I'm reading on the Gunboards forum stateside some much more knowledgeable guys are saying the Swedes just re-chambered the K98's and added a muzzle brake to the rifle.I compared my Portuguese K98 receiver to the Israeli and they certainly appear the same to me,admittedly by eye.When you converted your rifles over to 8X63 did you have to do any modifying to the rifles except as noted above?
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I finally got around to taking a few photos of the receiver area of this rifle,sorry for the long delay in getting these posted.
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That's interesting. The mag has an obvious spacer on the front and looks to have been set back like most of the Norwegian Mausers I have seen.

A couple of things seem t be missing on your rifle.

There are no milled flats on the receiver with the new serial numbers and there is no cut out for the longer bullets at the top of the receiver ring.

Now I am wondering whether the M40 rifles were purposely built by Mauser for the cartridge???
 
bearhunter said:
That's interesting. The mag has an obvious spacer on the front and looks to have been set back like most of the Norwegian Mausers I have seen.

A couple of things seem t be missing on your rifle.

There are no milled flats on the receiver with the new serial numbers and there is no cut out for the longer bullets at the top of the receiver ring.

Now I am wondering whether the M40 rifles were purposely built by Mauser for the cartridge???
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I'm not sure I'm following you on the milled flats and cut-out,from any of the images I've seen this was not done with any of the Swedish M40 rifles rechambered to 8X63.Is this for comparison to the Norwegian rifles in 30-06?
From what I gather from the Gunboards forum and the book Crown Jewels,all of the conversion work on these rifles was done in house by the Swedes themselves.I wish there was more comprehensive information available on this subject.
 
bjmurata said:
I'm not sure I'm following you on the milled flats and cut-out,from any of the images I've seen this was not done with any of the Swedish M40 rifles rechambered to 8X63.Is this for comparison to the Norwegian rifles in 30-06?
From what I gather from the Gunboards forum and the book Crown Jewels,all of the conversion work on these rifles was done in house by the Swedes themselves.I wish there was more comprehensive information available on this subject.
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I have never seen an M40 up close and personal, so yes, I was comparing your pics to the Norwegian 98s I own. I am lucky enough to own one of the few 7.62x51 Nato conversions they did as well. It looks no different from the 30-06 conversions and likely was done on one of those receivers. The M40 rifles were done much earlier so may have acted as prototypes for the later post war conversions. I have read two different stories on the M40 rifles. One says that they were purpose built by the Germans for Sweden and another says the Swedes did their own conversions. Whatever, they are certainly different from each other and your photos answered most of my curiosity questions. Thanks for posting the pics.
 
bearhunter said:
I have never seen an M40 up close and personal, so yes, I was comparing your pics to the Norwegian 98s I own. I am lucky enough to own one of the few 7.62x51 Nato conversions they did as well. It looks no different from the 30-06 conversions and likely was done on one of those receivers. The M40 rifles were done much earlier so may have acted as prototypes for the later post war conversions. I have read two different stories on the M40 rifles. One says that they were purpose built by the Germans for Sweden and another says the Swedes did their own conversions. Whatever, they are certainly different from each other and your photos answered most of my curiosity questions. Thanks for posting the pics.
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You're welcome,just picked up a new camera and have been playing with it a bit.The story behind these rifles seems to leave the odd hole here and there and it would be nice to see,if possible,a more in depth study done on them.I think the rifle has a lot of history behind it,I'm so glad I still have it.
 
bjmurata said:
You're welcome,just picked up a new camera and have been playing with it a bit.The story behind these rifles seems to leave the odd hole here and there and it would be nice to see,if possible,a more in depth study done on them.I think the rifle has a lot of history behind it,I'm so glad I still have it.
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The actual number of rifles that were converted is also questionable. The Swedes only bought 5000 rifles chambered for 8x57 and then either had them converted by German companies or did it themselves. I haven't seen one other than in pics so I don't know who manufactured the rifles. I would think that such a small order would all have the same manufacturer's codes and dates. It the rifles came from a broker there is a good chance they have different codes and dates. If the latter, it would lean heavily in favor of the theory that the Swedes did all of the conversions themselves. They certainly had very capable craftsmen and the infrastructure to do so.
 
I remember the Marstar ad from back when.
I never did buy any though.
I dont even have a sample round for my cartridge collection. (hint hint...)
 
Andy said:
That's not a former m/40.
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Andy,Ok but could you please explain what details make that so for future reference.Is it possible that this rifle may be one of the original batch of K98 used by Sweden in 8X57 and not converted when it passed to Israel?Would really like to figure this out.
 
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