9.3 at distance
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Started using them in my slingshot.... devastating!
I wonder how fast we could push these 210gr solids with a .390bc when tips are installed?
https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=ESP_N210_RAPTOR
Interesting 3 in 1 bullet....short range HP without the tip, long range with the tip, and can be loaded backwards for DG lol
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Any rifle can be made to shoot any reasonable distance, fairly easily. It is impressive that no one on this thread has cited useless "energy" numbers as a determination of maximum range, and have referenced velocities instead.
500 yards isn't a long poke anymore, with a good quality rangefinder and some practice with a bipod, and is easily done with a fixed 6 power scope and a turret, once you can get past the concept that a hubbel scope is not required.
Interesting thread, with a good representation of opinions and facts.
I'll add that I do not own a 9.3 anything, but do own 375's and 416's, and they get shot past 500 yards regularly, although not much farther than that. The 338WM is a different story, but that is a far lighter bullet, as expected.
R.
500 yards isn't a long poke anymore, with a good quality rangefinder and some practice with a bipod, and is easily done with a fixed 6 power scope and a turret, once you can get past the concept that a hubbel scope is not required.
Interesting thread, with a good representation of opinions and facts.
I'll add that I do not own a 9.3 anything, but do own 375's and 416's, and they get shot past 500 yards regularly, although not much farther than that. The 338WM is a different story, but that is a far lighter bullet, as expected.
R.
Here is the brother of a buddy of mine shooting his at distance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8AErpvMTTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8AErpvMTTE
Can you explain your thinking on this a bit more? Energy in this case seems more relevant than velocity. SD is good at .267. Even if the bullet is not going to expand fully, the 9.3 is packing way more than enough oomph to penetrate through deer at 400-500. It's carrying twice the recommended KE for deer sized game at 500. That coupled with its decent SD should get anything under 500lb leaking from both sides. I think that with smaller bullets velocity/expansion at range is much more important. There are lots of photos of 140gr .284 bullets on the web that were recovered from dead critters at much smaller diameters than .366.
All theoretical til next fall haha
My 9.3 x 62 wears a Leupold 6X36 scope with LR reticle. My standard load uses the 250 Accubond with 62 grains RL15 for 2650 ft./s, a load which has been pressure tested by Barsness and he gets exactly the same velocity.
Zeroed at 200 m/220 yards, it is never over 3 inches high at closer ranges. The first dot is on at 300 yards, the second dot at 375 and the tip of the post at a bit over 450.
A few weeks ago I was hunting with KodiakHunter. From a makeshift rest, and using the 2nd dot, he fired three rounds at 375 yards into a group that was less than 2 inches. A gopher at that range would be toast. As was stated earlier, a laser rangefinder and modern bullets have changed things immensely.
For what it's worth, my other load is a 286 partition at 2475 ft./s over Ramshot Big Game. Another Barsness load, it has exactly the same point of impact at 100 yards as the Accubond. Out to 400 yards, it doesn't drop much more. The 250 Accubond load averages well under an inch, and the 286NP load is an honest half-minute shooter.
The Accubond load arrives at 500 yards with more than 1800 ft./s velocity, which is more than enough to cause positive expansion. That means way more than energy figures people throw around. Energy means nothing, and with bullets that don't fragment SD means nothing. Enough velocity to expand, and a good bullet, period.
I have shot that rifle quite a bit out to 500 m/550 yards on my local silhouette range. With a LRF this is only as difficult as you make it. Mind you I shoot more than a little bit.
Zeroed at 200 m/220 yards, it is never over 3 inches high at closer ranges. The first dot is on at 300 yards, the second dot at 375 and the tip of the post at a bit over 450.
A few weeks ago I was hunting with KodiakHunter. From a makeshift rest, and using the 2nd dot, he fired three rounds at 375 yards into a group that was less than 2 inches. A gopher at that range would be toast. As was stated earlier, a laser rangefinder and modern bullets have changed things immensely.
For what it's worth, my other load is a 286 partition at 2475 ft./s over Ramshot Big Game. Another Barsness load, it has exactly the same point of impact at 100 yards as the Accubond. Out to 400 yards, it doesn't drop much more. The 250 Accubond load averages well under an inch, and the 286NP load is an honest half-minute shooter.
The Accubond load arrives at 500 yards with more than 1800 ft./s velocity, which is more than enough to cause positive expansion. That means way more than energy figures people throw around. Energy means nothing, and with bullets that don't fragment SD means nothing. Enough velocity to expand, and a good bullet, period.
I have shot that rifle quite a bit out to 500 m/550 yards on my local silhouette range. With a LRF this is only as difficult as you make it. Mind you I shoot more than a little bit.
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"Energy" in all cases is irrelevant, particularly when cited against a manufacturers recommend velocity required for function. This will cause a big stink, I am sure, as it always does, but it's physics and math.
What is the recommended KE required to kill a deer, and what is this based on, besides someone's opinion? Velocity is easily measurable, by most, and is a much easier number to comprehend and understand.
R.
You know, that IS an alright rifle, even if it does say Winchester on the side......(grin)
Very few people think about bullets, and the applications they should be used in, but everyone can quote a number that supports their stance.
That rifle, and the Accubond? That is a solid 500 yard elk rifle.
