9,3 x 72 R

Raymund

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Help or advice needed , I got nothing .
Don't even know where to start. Looking for brass , bullets , dies , loading data .
None of my regular stores have anything , many never heard of it .
 
OP, there are different loadings that are appropriate for this particular cartridge.

It all depends on the strength and design of the rifle you have chambered for it.

To give you a couple of examples, Drillings often have their bottom barrel chambered for the 9.3x72R, then there are SXS double rifles chambered for the same cartridge, but in much stronger platforms.

I have a Martini Enfield that was rechambered for this cartridge and it's very strong.

Cases, bullets, dies, powder, primers are all available from one or another source in the banner vendors at the top of the page.

I've found bullets to be the real problem.

I have a Drilling chambered for the cartridge but it's not nearly as strong as the Martini and requires a lighter bullet to get the best performance out of it.

There is all sorts of reloading info online as well.

Not trying to put you off, but you're asking for a BIG download, that you should be looking into yourself.

I would be very skeptical about loads garnered from people you don't know or what rifles they're shooting them out of.

I saw a custom, square bridge, magnum Mauser action rifle, chambered for this cartridge. It was done sometime during the early thirties, by a very skilled craftsman.

Do your own due diligence on this particular cartridge.

It's quite capable out past 100 yards or so on most game in North America. Just keep in mind that modern standards are completely different than those designed into that particular cartridge.

It should be a fun quest and a great learning curve.
 
What is the rifle ?
Bullets are not hard to find, I have a couple 9.3x62( same bullets) and depending on the rifle/action you might want to be a bit conservative, but I k le it was loaded in Ruger no1 and then sky is the limit lol!
 
What is the rifle ?
Bullets are not hard to find, I have a couple 9.3x62( same bullets) and depending on the rifle/action you might want to be a bit conservative, but I k le it was loaded in Ruger no1 and then sky is the limit lol!

Be careful on this particular cartridge.

The difference between the power levels and different loads is extreme. The only thing that is shared with the cartridge you are talking about is the bullet diameter.

The S&B bullets in the cartridges carried by SFRC might be OK for the OP's rifle.

The thing is, they're European loads and the SHOOTER IS EXPECTED TO KNOW THE LIMITATIONS OF THEIR PERSONAL FIREARM.

With the relatively light bullet, I would and have shot that loading in my Drilling. It's stout. Might be to stout for the OP's rifle.
 
What is the rifle ?
Bullets are not hard to find, I have a couple 9.3x62( same bullets) and depending on the rifle/action you might want to be a bit conservative, but I k le it was loaded in Ruger no1 and then sky is the limit lol!

It's a Karl Grundig drilling and it won't be my main hunting gun more just for fun. I was thinking of a low power " covboy load " to start with but I can't find any official loading data .
 
Epps and T.E.C Tradeex Canada both carry Sellier & Bellot 9,3 x 72 R 193 grs 12,5 g No.2951. Just under 100 bucks for 20.
I have used it in my drillings and found it to be fairly mild load.
I got my dies at Epps.
 
It's a Karl Grundig drilling and it won't be my main hunting gun more just for fun. I was thinking of a low power " covboy load " to start with but I can't find any official loading data .

The SFRC S&P loads will give you appx 1920fps muzzle velocity and appx 1550fps at 100 yds.

3/4" high at 50 yards will give you a 100yd zero and 15" low at 200 yds.

I load 40.0 grains of IMR3031 under 200 grn bullets I have on hand and use CCI250 primers. Velocities are 1950 fps and trajectories are identical with the S&B.

Don't expect minute of angle accuracy out of any Drilling. There may be a very odd one off, that will give such accuracy but it's most definitely a one off.

Raymund, your rifle is from one of the many European "family" shops at the time.

They were purchased in several stages of finish from a major supplier/manufacturer and finished from there to shop specs or customer specs.

My Drilling is very similar and put together by an obscure German shop.

The load I listed is safe in my personal rifle and is on the light side.
 
My two cents - to echo what was posted above - from John Barsness articles about 9.3 - what you have is a VERY large size cartridge that was made and loaded to produce very mild pressures - for the drillings, etc. that it was normally chambered in. Large cartridge, mild pressures. If you want power / speed in 9.3 - are likely looking at the array of 9.3x57, 9.3x62 and 9.3x64 - almost in that order, with the big guy - the 9.3x72R - being normally about the mildest one. It appears that the x62 and the x64 can be loaded about equivalent to a 375 H&H - say 286 or 320 grain bullets - 2200 to 2500 fps or more - about all the power that most of us could ever handle, at least handily.

FYI - I looked in Hodgdon 2011 annual manual - they show loadings for 9.3x62 and 9.3x74R, so no help to you there for "published" loadings ... Same two cartridges listed in the Hornady 9th book, as well.
 
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9.3x72R is more like a 38-55

Yup, when I first started loading for this cartridge, that was my starting page.

I have to be extremely careful not to use the loads for the Martini in the Drilling, so the boxes for the Martini are RED and the bases have all been died RED with a Sharpie
 
This round just hollers BLACK POWDER to me.

CTG. of the World says it originated in the 1890s and was black powder originally.
It was the same, except for case length, as 9.3x48R, 57R, 70R, 80R and 82R. Same bullet could be use for all.
Apparently the 72R was the only one commercially loaded after WW2.

I'll put this on my to do list and try it in Black.
 
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This round just hollers BLACK POWDER to me.

CTG. of the World says it originated in the 1890s and was black powder originally.
It was the same, except for case length, as 9.3x48R, 57R, 70R, 80R and 82R. Same bullet could be use for all.
Apparently the 72R was the only one commercially loaded after WW2.

I'll put this on my to do list and try it in Black.

It works just fine with FFG black and 250+ grain bullets. I found cast/lubed bullets worked best with a compressed load of BP in My Martini.
 
Raymund: If you decide to try cast bullets, I can help you with that. I shoot a #1 in 9.3X74R with cast very successfully I have 2 greaser molds and 1 Paper Patch, I powder coat and size to .367" PM me if I can be of help.
 
The SFRC S&P loads will give you appx 1920fps muzzle velocity and appx 1550fps at 100 yds.

3/4" high at 50 yards will give you a 100yd zero and 15" low at 200 yds.

I load 40.0 grains of IMR3031 under 200 grn bullets I have on hand and use CCI250 primers. Velocities are 1950 fps and trajectories are identical with the S&B.

Don't expect minute of angle accuracy out of any Drilling. There may be a very odd one off, that will give such accuracy but it's most definitely a one off.

Raymund, your rifle is from one of the many European "family" shops at the time.

They were purchased in several stages of finish from a major supplier/manufacturer and finished from there to shop specs or customer specs.

My Drilling is very similar and put together by an obscure German shop.

The load I listed is safe in my personal rifle and is on the light side.

Thanks , I was up at the cottage so I dropped by Ellwood Epps . Got some S&B soft point and ordered the die set.
 
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