9.3x57 250gr ttsx

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Has anyone here tried loading the 250gr ttsx in the 9.3x57? I want to give it a try and was hoping someone might have some load data worked up they could share. Thanks
 
The 9.3X57 became an obsolete caliber before Barnes monolithic bullets came to the market. There might be no published data.

Hence, you might have to do some careful experimenting. My suggestion would be to look at the published load in 9.6X62 and reduce the starting load by about 20% to account for the difference in case capacity, and MAP. Then, carefully work up. You will want to use a powder in the IMR4895 burn rate range
 
A standard cup and core would be better, I would try the 285 PRVI, for me they are accurate and deadly.
 
I have some data in either a Handloading or Rifle magazine ........let me dig it out for you if I can find it.
I have a whole page of loads PM me a name/mailing address + PC and i"ll photocopy it for you if you want it.Velocity varies from 2000fps-2200fps so cup+core is correct.
 
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Quickload prediction, loaded to 50,000PSI

Code:
Cartridge          : 9.3 x 57
Bullet             : .366, 250, Barnes 'TTSX' 30475
Useable Case Capaci: 50.495 grain H2O = 3.279 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.228 inch = 81.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 50000 psi, or 344 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 104 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

83 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17                 103.6     50.6     3.28    2347    95.9    50000    6034   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            97.5     42.4     2.75    2301   100.0    50000    5141   1.276  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223                      92.2     47.8     3.10    2298    96.2    50000    5588   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    97.6     48.4     3.14    2289    95.3    50000    5549   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      89.9     45.0     2.92    2286    98.1    50000    5361   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp                     92.8     41.8     2.71    2283   100.0    50000    4686   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       102.6     50.5     3.27    2281    89.5    50000    5701   1.270  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     102.6     50.5     3.27    2281    89.5    50000    5701   1.270  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       92.4     46.9     3.04    2280    97.1    50000    5522   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    104.0     49.5     3.21    2276    93.0    48437    5745   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            96.2     44.8     2.90    2271    95.8    50000    5542   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  97.0     45.1     2.92    2256    94.9    50000    5464   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            99.2     45.4     2.94    2255    95.4    50000    5278   1.283  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                     96.5     45.4     2.94    2249    99.1    50000    5214   1.303  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       93.2     43.4     2.81    2249    96.4    50000    5362   1.305  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        84.8     43.1     2.79    2246    99.2    50000    5102   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        89.8     40.6     2.63    2245    99.7    50000    4937   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135                    103.0     43.5     2.82    2240   100.0    50000    4804   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        98.5     46.8     3.03    2234    92.9    50000    5429   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                     89.8     42.0     2.72    2229    97.3    50000    5166   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                     96.3     44.0     2.85    2227    99.4    50000    4912   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      99.3     44.7     2.90    2227    94.7    50000    5221   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                        91.6     42.7     2.76    2222    97.1    50000    5098   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            99.8     43.9     2.84    2213    94.9    50000    5127   1.311  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                 86.8     38.1     2.47    2212   100.0    50000    4586   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                         91.5     45.9     2.98    2205    92.1    50000    5224   1.317  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator                89.2     44.3     2.87    2204    95.5    50000    5090   1.321  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   90.9     41.7     2.70    2196    97.9    50000    4896   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     104.0     50.0     3.24    2194    88.4    44568    5496   1.326
Hodgdon H4350                      104.0     47.4     3.07    2115    86.0    44021    4968   1.361
 
Quickload prediction, loaded to 50,000PSI

Code:
Cartridge          : 9.3 x 57
Bullet             : .366, 250, Barnes 'TTSX' 30475
Useable Case Capaci: 50.495 grain H2O = 3.279 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.228 inch = 81.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 50000 psi, or 344 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 104 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

83 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17                 103.6     50.6     3.28    2347    95.9    50000    6034   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            97.5     42.4     2.75    2301   100.0    50000    5141   1.276  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223                      92.2     47.8     3.10    2298    96.2    50000    5588   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    97.6     48.4     3.14    2289    95.3    50000    5549   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      89.9     45.0     2.92    2286    98.1    50000    5361   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp                     92.8     41.8     2.71    2283   100.0    50000    4686   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       102.6     50.5     3.27    2281    89.5    50000    5701   1.270  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     102.6     50.5     3.27    2281    89.5    50000    5701   1.270  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       92.4     46.9     3.04    2280    97.1    50000    5522   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    104.0     49.5     3.21    2276    93.0    48437    5745   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            96.2     44.8     2.90    2271    95.8    50000    5542   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  97.0     45.1     2.92    2256    94.9    50000    5464   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            99.2     45.4     2.94    2255    95.4    50000    5278   1.283  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                     96.5     45.4     2.94    2249    99.1    50000    5214   1.303  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       93.2     43.4     2.81    2249    96.4    50000    5362   1.305  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        84.8     43.1     2.79    2246    99.2    50000    5102   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        89.8     40.6     2.63    2245    99.7    50000    4937   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135                    103.0     43.5     2.82    2240   100.0    50000    4804   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        98.5     46.8     3.03    2234    92.9    50000    5429   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                     89.8     42.0     2.72    2229    97.3    50000    5166   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                     96.3     44.0     2.85    2227    99.4    50000    4912   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      99.3     44.7     2.90    2227    94.7    50000    5221   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                        91.6     42.7     2.76    2222    97.1    50000    5098   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            99.8     43.9     2.84    2213    94.9    50000    5127   1.311  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                 86.8     38.1     2.47    2212   100.0    50000    4586   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                         91.5     45.9     2.98    2205    92.1    50000    5224   1.317  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator                89.2     44.3     2.87    2204    95.5    50000    5090   1.321  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   90.9     41.7     2.70    2196    97.9    50000    4896   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     104.0     50.0     3.24    2194    88.4    44568    5496   1.326
Hodgdon H4350                      104.0     47.4     3.07    2115    86.0    44021    4968   1.361

Awesome data thanks. Here’s what I got yesterday from the loads I made up.

Norma brass COAL 3.120”
250 ttsx H4895

44.0. 1972
45.0. 2035
46.0. 2076
47.0. 2136

RL 15

45. 1730
46. 1775
47. 1819
48. 1904
 
Awesome data thanks. Here’s what I got yesterday from the loads I made up.

Norma brass COAL 3.120”
250 ttsx H4895

44.0. 1972
45.0. 2035
46.0. 2076
47.0. 2136

RL 15

45. 1730
46. 1775
47. 1819
48. 1904

how far off the lands? Barrel length? Case capacity in H2O?
 
Awesome data thanks. Here’s what I got yesterday from the loads I made up.

Norma brass COAL 3.120”
250 ttsx H4895

44.0. 1972
45.0. 2035
46.0. 2076
47.0. 2136

RL 15

45. 1730
46. 1775
47. 1819
48. 1904

Those numbers look suspiciously low. You should be in the 2300 fps range. BTW RL-15 is likely too slow a powder for that application, but H4895 should be suitable.
 
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