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Having acquired a Husqvarna 9.3x57 based on a swede action-and being brand new to reloading-I would welcome any reloading information/advice/experiance on this chambering.I picked up some 290 gr hard cast bullets[half regular, half gas check] and a box of Speer semi spitzer 270 gr bullets.Haven't bought powder or primers yet-I am in the process of putting together some reloading equipment.I may end up picking up a couple of boxes of Norma Alaska 286 gr cartidges for this fall if I'm not ready with the reloads by this hunting season-and the brass will come in handy later anyway
I will probably use the rifle for moose/bear ,my favourite deer rifle is a swede 6.5x55-which was why I bought the Husqvarna based on the same action but in a larger caliber.
 
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Welcome to the club!

I am in very much the same boat as yourself and have two such rifles that I hope to try out in the next couple of weeks. God willing I will finish glass bedding them and still be able to make it to the range sometime before heading off to Alberta for a summer militia concentration.

For possible loads, I suggest that you check out the Swedish Civilian and Commercial Firearms forums at Gunboards.com. There is an extensive and informative sticky on that forum showing people's results at handloading for this round that I am sure would be of great help.

One of the loads listed there for the 9.3x57 was 36-40grains of IMR 3031 over a 285gr bullet, taken from "Big Bore Rifles of the World." For my first go with this round I plan to fire five rounds each of 36 to 40 grains in both of my rifles. If I get the chance to fire them within the next two weeks, I'll post the results here and at the Gunboards site.

Good luck with your 9.3x57s!

Frank
 
There is a link to the gunboards site mentioned above on the Trade-ex site. CGN member Noel also has a lot of experience with this round and will hopefully see this and post.

I am currently working on a load using Metalverkin brass (from Higginsons), IMR 3031, CCI large rifle primers and Barnes 250gr TSX bullets. I am using a COL of 3.270" which is longer than standard but still feeds from the mag on my M98. I used a starting load of 40grs, I have worked up to 43grs so far with no pressure signs. I have test rounds loaded in 0.5gr increments up to 45.5 grs, hopefully I will get a chance to get out again next week to try them. Unfortunately, I forgot my chrony on the last trip so no velocity stats yet.
 
Workin Man said:
I am currently working on a load using Metalverkin brass (from Higginsons), IMR 3031, CCI large rifle primers and Barnes 250gr TSX bullets. I am using a COL of 3.270" which is longer than standard but still feeds from the mag on my M98. I used a starting load of 40grs, I have worked up to 43grs so far with no pressure signs. I have test rounds loaded in 0.5gr increments up to 45.5 grs, hopefully I will get a chance to get out again next week to try them. Unfortunately, I forgot my chrony on the last trip so no velocity stats yet.
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I'll be nice to hear about your chrony results. Looking forward to your range review.
 
Workin Man said:
There is a link to the gunboards site mentioned above on the Trade-ex site. CGN member Noel also has a lot of experience with this round and will hopefully see this and post.

I am currently working on a load using Metalverkin brass (from Higginsons), IMR 3031, CCI large rifle primers and Barnes 250gr TSX bullets. I am using a COL of 3.270" which is longer than standard but still feeds from the mag on my M98. I used a starting load of 40grs, I have worked up to 43grs so far with no pressure signs. I have test rounds loaded in 0.5gr increments up to 45.5 grs, hopefully I will get a chance to get out again next week to try them. Unfortunately, I forgot my chrony on the last trip so no velocity stats yet.
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Wow, I have a "roadie"! LOL

Thanks man, to be honest I wouldn't say I have alot of experience with this chambering. I just make sure I help evertime I can as many have done here for me.;)

This rifle you have must be the model 46 so you won't be able to load up as far as I did on my 98 action.

I am having grief getting into photobucket where I have my data scanned.
Will try to get it posted for you.

This will sure make a nice big brother for your 6,5. ;)
 
I have a Mauser in 9x57 (not 9.3) Although we are talking about two different cartridges, the following bullet weights should be (more or less) applicable. I had sized the bullets down to .356 to equal 9mm. I still have not had a chance to take it out, but will do so soon.

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I'm not into heavy recoil,shoot better with moderate loads,and while the pundits say the 9.3x57 is a ''short range'' rifle,200 yards is plenty good enough for me-I'm more interested in being able to put one in the boiler room with reasonable accuracy,and I have the thinking that no moose or bear hit back of the shoulders with a 286 gr round nose bullet at even 2000 fps is going to go very far.
 
Beadwindow mentioned a very good website/forum to get 96 info from. Those guys have years of experience to share. I still cannot get to my info but with my rifle it had alot of freebore. I seated the bullets as long as they would function reliably. Powders I found to work were IMR 3031 and H335 of which the second one was my rifles diet for last fall.

Whynot kindly shared alot of loads with me seeing as he had a couple custom rifles built. He recommended BL-C2 also but I didn't have time to get that powder before I left on the hunt. I think IMR or H4895 would be a contender for this case too. It sure works well in my 8x57. I wish I had tried that powder years ago!

With a 286gr I think 2000 to 2100 is realistic in the 96. Use a chrony and keep a close eye on the other tell tale signs and you will be away.

Enjoy! :)

Noel
 
''I seated the bullets as long as they would function reliably''-how long do you know that is-do you go by overall length?
 
ratherbefishin said:
''I seated the bullets as long as they would function reliably''-how long do you know that is-do you go by overall length?
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You'll have to check your gun to make sure you can do it without engaging the lands. If you have alot of freebore like my 146 did, I just went .050" shorter than the magazine box so they would cycle. I couldn't get anywhere near the lands in my gun.
 
The Swedish 96 is at least as strong , maybe stronger than any 98 built up to the end of ww2. This is due to the Bofors steel used in them. The Swede shooters and Norma make no differentiation between the 96 and 98 for pressure standards.
 
Wouldn't a Swede 98 be built from the same steel as a Swede 96? Mine is a Husky 98 but I haven't tried to date it yet, so not sure if its pre or post war.

Noel, I still have the PM you sent me with your load data. I can forward it back to you, or I can put it up here if you want. BTW, I wouldn't go so far as "roadie", but you were a big help in getting me up and running with the 9.3 and I appreciate it.
 
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Workin Man said:
Wouldn't a Swede 98 be built from the same steel as a Swede 96? Mine is a Husky 98 but I haven't tried to date it yet, so not sure if its pre or post war.

Noel, I still have the PM you sent me with your load data. I can forward it back to you, or I can put it up here if you want. BTW, I wouldn't go so far as "roadie", but you were a big help in getting me up and running with the 9.3 and I appreciate it.
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Your very welcome for the help, glad I was able to be on the giving end for a change!

By all means please do post the data I sent you!:) Please bold the "use with extreme caution disclaimer." I won't be responsible for any faux pas!:slap:

Thanks bud!:wave:
 
OneBarfly said:
I have a Mauser in 9x57 (not 9.3) Although we are talking about two different cartridges, the following bullet weights should be (more or less) applicable. I had sized the bullets down to .356 to equal 9mm. I still have not had a chance to take it out, but will do so soon.

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Here's one for you I found tonight. It is in the 1933, November issue of Hunter, trader, trapper.

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I have come across one guy in B.C. who has a Brno 21H in 9x57 too.:)
The only one I've ever heard of!
 
Noel's load data as forwarded to me. At Noel's request USE THIS INFO AT YOUR OWN RISK .

Quote " Here are the loads I tried."

Metalverkin Brass, CCI250 primers, 270gr Speer, ***COL 3.140" (this is what was in the PM you sent me Noel, but it seems awful short, you may want to double check this if you can find your data. I would guess it would likely be 3.240" )***.

H335 @ 52gr = 2275fps
55gr = 2385fps
56gr = 2436fps (my hunting load)

H4895 @ 47gr = 2060fps
53gr = 2235fps
54gr = 2285fps
55gr = 2337fps

IMR3031 @ 48gr = 2202fps
49gr = 2226fps
 
I haven't bought any powder yet[waiting on the dies] but I would like to understand the diference between the 3 powders mentioned,what does one offer over the other,and if there is any preference-I have some 290gr cast bullets and some Speer 270gr coming,hoping to get some privi partizen 286 gr
*H335
*H4895
*IMR3031
 
ratherbefishin said:
I haven't bought any powder yet[waiting on the dies] but I would like to understand the diference between the 3 powders mentioned,what does one offer over the other,and if there is any preference-I have some 290gr cast bullets and some Speer 270gr coming,hoping to get some privi partizen 286 gr
*H335
*H4895
*IMR3031
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Seeing as you want to basically copy factory velocities you might not find much difference in any of the three. If you want higher velocities you will run out of space with 4895 and 3031 before long.

H335 is a ball powder that pours as easy as water and fills the case very nicely. It leaves more residue than the IMR line too.

IIRC the 3031 was stuffed at 49gr.
 
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