9.3x62 & 45-70
- Thread starter deke
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I'd take the 9.3 (which was a fad abotu 100 years ago) 
for 2 reasons-
One is that I prefer bolt actions, and the other is versatility. If this is a brush gun and you aren't shooting past 150 yards (for sake of argument) then there isn't much difference. Both with knock the crap out of any bear or moose.
However, if you need to stretch the distance a bit, the 9.3 has aflatter trajectory, more liek a 30-06.
It also depends if you want ascope or irons. Bolt actions are generally easier to scope, although the Marlin will take a scope easy enough.
If you are buying factory ammo, you will find the 9.3 selection limited, and the 45-70 loads weak (compared to it's full potential in modern arms) , unless you can get some of the custom loaded stuff.
It really comes down to how far you will shoot, and if you liek levers or bolts...One isn't goinng to kill a bear or deer any deader than the other...
for 2 reasons- One is that I prefer bolt actions, and the other is versatility. If this is a brush gun and you aren't shooting past 150 yards (for sake of argument) then there isn't much difference. Both with knock the crap out of any bear or moose.
However, if you need to stretch the distance a bit, the 9.3 has aflatter trajectory, more liek a 30-06.
It also depends if you want ascope or irons. Bolt actions are generally easier to scope, although the Marlin will take a scope easy enough.
If you are buying factory ammo, you will find the 9.3 selection limited, and the 45-70 loads weak (compared to it's full potential in modern arms) , unless you can get some of the custom loaded stuff.
It really comes down to how far you will shoot, and if you liek levers or bolts...One isn't goinng to kill a bear or deer any deader than the other...
I got rid of my 45/70 and went with a CRF bolt 9.3x62 for my peace of mind rifle at work and as a serious moose/bear hunting rifle. As much as I liked my marlin I aint going back. Components are easy to find and are reasonably priced. Pm me if your having a hard time finding them and I'll let you know where to look.
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If I had to choose one it would be the 9.3. The 45-70 is a great heavy hitter and lots of fun to boot(I own two). But if I had to pick, I think a good bolt action is the way to go. IMO the CZ is a great choice. I am very happy with my .375 and am thinking of another CZ in the future.
The best way to overcome your choice is to buy both. One can never have too many guns 
The best way to overcome your choice is to buy both
. One can never have too many guns 
Noel said:Jarrod, what the heck! Did you hit your head at work today?
I must not be reading the sarcasm here.
Truth be known, you were the second biggest influence on me to get a 9,3!
Just funnin Noel. Ben's post reminded me of a previous thread where one guy did'nt like 9.3's becuase they were'nt American
beretta boy
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Don't think any lever design is long enough to handle the 9.3 x 74R.
But why not in a nice Beretta 686 O/U ???
But why not in a nice Beretta 686 O/U ???
Dukeoflawnchair
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I've personally (as I'm certain many others have) headd a few too many accounts of people taking long jesus shots and missing their target (target being the vitals, missing being a bad wound). My suggestion is that unless you're damn sure you can nail the 150+ range in the field, I would personally stick with the 45-70 bull of a cartridge...
almost went with a cz 9.3 myself, lovely rifles. instead i opted for a .350 remington in the 673 rifle. basically figured i would get 9.3 performance with more bullet selection for reloading.
i have had a 45-70 and 444 marlin in the past before i got my .350. of the three the 45-70 would be my last choice and the .350 my first.
just a more useful all around cart.
so, of the carts you've mentioned, i'd go with the 9.3.
i have had a 45-70 and 444 marlin in the past before i got my .350. of the three the 45-70 would be my last choice and the .350 my first.
just a more useful all around cart.
so, of the carts you've mentioned, i'd go with the 9.3.
For the 9.3 lovers (I have 3):
Straight from Hornady:
From Web Master (Hornady)
Well, it's beyond conceivable, it's planned. Bullets are available. For some reason as yet unexplained, we neglected to put them in the catalog and offer them for sale. They will be up on the web site shortly.
These bullets and the appropriate cartridge are suitable for virtually any game you could conceive. The caliber is suitable to take. In other words, anything the 375 cal 300 grain soft can do the 9.3 286 grain can do also.
Straight from Hornady:
From Web Master (Hornady)
Well, it's beyond conceivable, it's planned. Bullets are available. For some reason as yet unexplained, we neglected to put them in the catalog and offer them for sale. They will be up on the web site shortly.
These bullets and the appropriate cartridge are suitable for virtually any game you could conceive. The caliber is suitable to take. In other words, anything the 375 cal 300 grain soft can do the 9.3 286 grain can do also.
I'm backing the 9.3mm too if you have to choose one.
The '62 was invented around 1910 by Otto Bock for African farmers as a cheaper alternative to the pricey English double rifles and also as an effective cartridge for European hunters who headed to Africa.
The Whelen is a 9.3x62 wannabe.
It only got up because Americans are so damn insular and a lot of the excellent European cartridges didn't get a look in between the wars.
Sure, it's effective, but the 9.3mm has more to offer.
I'm not saying the 45-70 is a bad round but in a lever gun it simply isn't as accurate as the '62 in a good CZ bolt gun.
The '62 was invented around 1910 by Otto Bock for African farmers as a cheaper alternative to the pricey English double rifles and also as an effective cartridge for European hunters who headed to Africa.
The Whelen is a 9.3x62 wannabe.
It only got up because Americans are so damn insular and a lot of the excellent European cartridges didn't get a look in between the wars.
Sure, it's effective, but the 9.3mm has more to offer.
I'm not saying the 45-70 is a bad round but in a lever gun it simply isn't as accurate as the '62 in a good CZ bolt gun.
Go with the 9.3! A very versatile cartridge but it's really a round for a handloaders (both choices are really but more so the 9.3) Norma makes a few loads but they are pricey.
Love my Tikka in 9.3x62! Epps is listing a couple of them in stainless on their site.
Love my Tikka in 9.3x62! Epps is listing a couple of them in stainless on their site.
I've 2 9.3s and a 45-70 and i would take the 9,3 hands down.Snow Dog said:Go with the 9.3! A very versatile cartridge but it's really a round for a handloaders (both choices are really but more so the 9.3) Norma makes a few loads but they are pricey.
Love my Tikka in 9.3x62! Epps is listing a couple of them in stainless on their site.
Nosler is also making 9,3x62, 250gr and 286gr Factory rounds.Things are looking up.I am actually amazed on how many guys own 9,3mm in North America.
Keep buying them and we might become a critical mass and be able to influence bullet manufacturers.
mmmmmmm....fruity Eurocal with flimsy plastic stock, I know, I know, the Europeons have distinquished themselves with their firearm freedoms and who can argue with their grand military traditions going back to WW2, France, Italy, Norway,etc., all proved to be great allies...lets buy some more guns off them.....no thanks...give me a lever gun made of steel and wood and help support people who are willing to fight for their rights!!!
The plastic stock may have been invented in Europe, so the gun could be dropped quickly in the face of an enemy attack....i think enough good guns are made in N/A that we don't have to support UN hugging countries in Europe. If you want a cheap, mainly plastic gun, they make that, Tikka doesn't have a monopoly on cheap plastic guns, if you want a caliber similar to a loaded down .375 I'm sure they'll make it for you. I just think that we should support the companies that got us here! Some of them are in trouble as we buy Euro and Asian guns or shotguns make by Turkeys.
