90 year old neighbour gave me this

[cowbelly]

I,ve got the same thing but mines a little rough. But man is it accurate!

 

[skneub]

wait a minute, so we need a gun license for pellet guns over 500 fps, do we need to register them tooÉ

Not for long

 

[jtoews80]

Not for long, but don't screw around either, soilders were killed after the Armistice was signed to end WW I and most every other major conflict too. The CFC/RCMP likely wouldn't miss the chance to press charges until the LGR is offically gone, it will cost them some manpower and likely alot of pride to have it abolished, so behave until it IS gone.

 

[boltonscouter]

it is 500 fps for it to be classed as a firearm.

Actually under 500 fps is still classed as a "firearm"!
Under 500 fps are still firearms but have an exemption from requiring they be registered.
500 fps & over = needs to be registered!

 

[pac11]

Actually under 500 fps is still classed as a "firearm"!
Under 500 fps are still firearms but have an exemption from requiring they be registered.
500 fps & over = needs to be registered!

There is so many things not true with the above

Is a PAL required under 500fps? No!! Only for firearms

Registration for non restricted: As I hope we would all know, there has been amnesty in place since 2007 and was just extended till 2013. But yes our fine gov't is working hard to get rid of it hopefully in the next few months.

PAL yes registration NO

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158553

www.publicsafety.gc.ca/media/nr/2011/nr20110325-eng.aspx?rss=true

 

[.22LRGUY]

I didn't read this whole thread, so I probably shouldn't chime-in...but whatever, it's Monday. : )

My understanding is this;

Under 500fps~not a firearm, doesn't require registration.

Over 500fps~is a firearm, and does require registration.

Plenty of the confusion seems to stem from discharge laws/bylaws that lump airguns into the same category as (powder burning) firearms. Also, if I understand it correctly, if you use even a BB gun unlawfully, you can be charged with firearm offenses, not "Careless use of a Daisy"

BTW, the I also own a Shanghai 61..belonged to my grandfather, I inherited it in 1977. Woudn't even TRY to guess how many tins of pellets I've put through it!

 

[easysauce]

wow... just wow... I thought the LGregistry was kinda dumb before, but really, registering a pellet gun? do we have to register slingshots that can exceed 500fps too? what if I can punch REALLY fast... actually I think I would like to have a registration cert for my fists

 

[mwjones]

Looks liek a slavia clone, except for the wierd left handed sling "swivels"

 

[boltonscouter]

Actually under 500 fps is still classed as a "firearm"!
Under 500 fps are still firearms but have an exemption from requiring they be registered.
500 fps & over = needs to be registered!

There is so many things not true with the above

Is a PAL required under 500fps? No!! Only for firearms

Actually it is basically true. I did a little quick research for you and if you go to
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/index-eng.htm#a4

You'll see in the frequently asked questions FAQ's.........

" A4. As set out in the Firearms Act, "firearm" means:

•a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes
•any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon, as well as
•anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm.
Following are some weapons and devices that meet the definition of a firearm but that are deemed not to be firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act and related offences in the Criminal Code. Some of these items are exempted from the definition only if they were designed exclusively for a specific purpose and are intended to be used exclusively for that purpose by the person who possesses it. However, all of the items listed below are considered to be firearms if used in a criminal or negligent manner.

•Antique firearms;
•Devices designed exclusively for signalling, for notifying of distress, for firing blank cartridges or for firing stud cartridges, explosive-driven rivets or other industrial projectiles;
•Shooting devices designed exclusively forslaughtering domestic animals, tranquilizing animals, or discharging projectiles with lines attached to them;
•Air guns and other barreled weapons designed to have:
◦A muzzle velocity of 152.4 meters per second or less and/or
◦A muzzle energy of 5.7 joules or less."

So ......... if used in a criminal or negligent manner ..... a pellet pistol/rifle with less than 500 fps IS considered a firearm! That means if there's an accident resulting in injury (or most any other circumstance where police are likely to become involved) ...... you're into the Firearms Act involving the Feds & the criminal code! So yes essentially less than 500 fps have an exemption from being registered but if anything happens, they ARE treated as firearms!! The devil is in the details and the sticky phrase is "criminal or negligent manner" which basically is a catch all for ..... THEY CAN CHARGE YOU! When it really matters, confronted by LEO's, chances are it will most likely be classified/treated as a firearm unless you happen to get a VERY understanding LEO!

EDIT: I am not a lawyer & this is my opinion only. Conduct yourself according to your own conscience & interpretation of exhisting policy. I believe my position is a prudent one when serving self preservation interests.

 

[boltonscouter]

Also, if I understand it correctly, if you use even a BB gun unlawfully, you can be charged with firearm offenses, not "Careless use of a Daisy"

You are correct ..... see my post above! unlawfully = criminal & careless = negligent = firearm!
EDIT: I am not a lawyer & this is my opinion only. Conduct yourself according to your own conscience & interpretation of exhisting policy. I believe my position is a prudent one when serving self preservation interests.