91/30 Sniper Rifle - Scrubbed for Clandestine Aid? *pics*
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I don't think I have ever seen a Chinese M91/30 but a book I have has plenty of photos of Chinese copies of Mauser actions and stamps.
I haven't seen another example of a 91/30 with it's markings scrubbed so much, just the usual ones where the markings are faded but still legible. Any signs of a refurb stamp on the receiver (or the remnants of one) ?. What does the bluing look like on the portion of the barrel that is beneath the stock line ?
Hard to say what stimulated the need for the polishing of the receiver at this point. Are you able to get some close ups of the receiver ?
You certainly have an eye for catching the Soviet firearms that are not run of the mill common
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I haven't seen another example of a 91/30 with it's markings scrubbed so much, just the usual ones where the markings are faded but still legible. Any signs of a refurb stamp on the receiver (or the remnants of one) ?. What does the bluing look like on the portion of the barrel that is beneath the stock line ?
Hard to say what stimulated the need for the polishing of the receiver at this point. Are you able to get some close ups of the receiver ?
You certainly have an eye for catching the Soviet firearms that are not run of the mill common
.
I feel fairly sure that scrubbing off markings would not mask the source of the weapon, should anyone care. In afghanistan right now we're getting hit with brand new chinese rockets. They don't have to be scrubbed of markings to know who made such a distinct round...
My opinion is that it's Yugoslavian. I recall a good many years ago, a batch of these came out of Yugoslavia in nearly new refurb condition with the Soviet markings removed.
And yes, that is a reproduction scope - and not "new old stock" - it was made within the last 5 years IMHO.
And yes, that is a reproduction scope - and not "new old stock" - it was made within the last 5 years IMHO.
You and me both.
Is there enough demand for these scopes to make them? I figured no. There were plenty made in the 60s that were never used. Of course I could be wrong and they could be brand new. Seems odd they would manufacture a scope that's only really useful to a small collector's niche of 9130 snipers. But stranger things have happened.
If you bought it from Ukraine why would you said you bought it from fellow CGNer.
What answer are you looking for?
If it is out of Ukraine than it is Ukrainian refurb with rep scope.
There is many reason why this was done to rifle:
1.It was assigned to museum or some other place that did not allowed it to be exported out of that country .
2.It could have been stolen from someone in Ukraine and since Cyrillic letters mean more there then here, they were filled off on purpose. If you see part of serial destroyed here would you buy it.
3. There is a list of rifles that are not allowed to be taken out of country.
I can tell you one thing and I mean no harm. This rifle has something fishy about and nothing special. I hope you did not pay too much.
I know if I came across something like it I would not touch it if it was free.
Sergy, the rifle came from me & the scope came out of the Ukraine. Yes, the scopes are being reproduced in all variations in various places. There is a huge market for repro sniper stuff & finding an original anything is getting harder all the time. Hell even collectors source has what looks like a repro advertised as an original.
The rifle came from a fellow CGNer, the scope did not. I am not in the business of buying rifles directly from Ukraine.
The serial number on the left side of the barrel authenticates it as an original sniper. It's just unusual, that's all. I was going to get an original scope for it but it will never be all matching anyways so why pay the extra expense for an original.
