92FS First Pistol Your Thoughts.

My first pistol was a Beretta 92FS. I still have it. I still love it. I have a Colt and a Smith M&P. The Beretta is the most reliable, I have thought about selling it many times, I have owned it since it was approved by Bruce Willis and Mel Gibson in the 90's :D.

I will never sell it, it took me to A class in IPSC, and I can make it sing! If you like the feel, and it fits your hand, go for it.

I think they have only gotten better.
 
I absolutely love mine. I would be hard pressed to decide if I had to give up either my HK p30l or my 92fs. My friend got one around the same time and he could get tighter groups with a shotgun, so like they say, fit is everything, if it doesn't fit you, you won't be happy with it
 
dogzilla said:
I absolutely love mine. I would be hard pressed to decide if I had to give up either my HK p30l or my 92fs. My friend got one around the same time and he could get tighter groups with a shotgun, so like they say, fit is everything, if it doesn't fit you, you won't be happy with it
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Fit is the excuse used by the untrained. Its a gimmick, learn to shoot and the rest is irrelevant. Nowhere in the fundamentals is "fit" ever mentioned...

TDC
 
TDC said:
Fit is the excuse used by the untrained. Its a gimmick, learn to shoot and the rest is irrelevant. Nowhere in the fundamentals is "fit" ever mentioned...

TDC
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It might be the first time if not that I agree with your statement. we are the shooter and we should able to shoot what ever come across without any issue. I have the smallest hand among all the gunnutz and even the teen age girl that shown up at Poco range has a bigger hand then me. But I can shoot all the gun with a 2x4 grip without issue. Back to the topic, Beretta made excellent gun and the 92fs/m9 is perfect for all level, not just beginner. Gun choice is very personal but don't let the term FIT and FEEL to stop you.

Trigun
 
Hang on till I get my hip boots cause my BS meter just went off. There is a difference between being able to shoot a gun and wanting to shoot it. If a gun isn't comfortable to shoot it is going to stay in the safe. It may be true in the forces or police where they hand you a firearm and say here you go. If you're going to spend your money you want to find something you actually enjoy, after all we are shooting as a hobby and there is more than enough variety out there to find what works best for you
 
dogzilla said:
Hang on till I get my hip boots cause my BS meter just went off. There is a difference between being able to shoot a gun and wanting to shoot it. If a gun isn't comfortable to shoot it is going to stay in the safe. It may be true in the forces or police where they hand you a firearm and say here you go. If you're going to spend your money you want to find something you actually enjoy, after all we are shooting as a hobby and there is more than enough variety out there to find what works best for you
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Which do you prefer, a comfortable gun you can't hit sh*t with, or a less than perfect "feeling" gun you can shoot well? Maybe I'm crazy, but if I can't hit sh*t, I don't care how it feels or looks, I'm pissed. Like I said, only the untrained concern themselves with stupid things like "feel" and "fit". Fundamentals are fundamentals, learn them, apply them, move along. Sight alignment, trigger squeeze and follow through are what you need to master, nowhere was "fit" or "comfort" mentioned.


TDC

ETA: I'll go one step further and tell you why the Beretta is a bad choice. As far as "fit" goes, the 92 series is a huge beast. Very large grips, overly long and heavy. Slide mounted safety is stupid and DA/SA is outdated. The DA on a Beretta is crazy long, smooth yes, but long. The SA is not crisp and lacks a defined break point. Exposed trigger/transfer bar is a dumb design, exposed barrel is a dumb design. Many 92 series pistols have integral front sights, another dumb design. 64 parts/pieces with a 3 piece locking lug system is another dumb design.
 
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That's funny because proper fit = consistent grip, and consistent grip is one of the very first basics to shooting well
 
dogzilla said:
That's funny because proper fit = consistent grip, and consistent grip is one of the very first basics to shooting well
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Phew, Until I read this I thought I was crazy. Then I realised that I was only breathless because I was wearing 32" pants and I'm a size 36".
 
dogzilla said:
That's funny because proper fit = consistent grip, and consistent grip is one of the very first basics to shooting well
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So very wrong. Consistent grip is a consistent grip, it has little to do with "fit". When you align the sights and depress the trigger and apply follow through, the round goes where you want it to. How is it that I can shoot with a pen as my trigger finger and the pistol upside down and still hit the target? I guess I'm cheating the system. Can you explain how an 11 year old girl can handle a full size pistol with factory ammo just as well as a full grown adult male? Much smaller hands should equal less performance based on your beliefs. Fit is a myth, you clearly don't know what you don't know. Sight alignment, trigger squeeze, follow through. That's it. A proper grip, a stable stance, trigger finger placement, and working the reset all AID one in being consistent and accurate. They also AID one in being able to shoot rapidly while maintaining consistency. They are not required to make hits.

What about this young man??? Fit is clearly causing him major issues. He's SIX!!!

TDC
 
Since you're starting from a clean slate, pass on DA/SA pistols. The manual of arms is harder to master than something with one kind of trigger pull.
 
I guess 9mm. is the new .22 ...but there used to be accepted wisdom that starting with a .22 was more likely to facilitate developing good technique without developing a flinch...not to mention being cheaper and therefore letting you shoot more.
 
Yeah, the gun I own that I shoot the best is pretty much an ergonomic nightmare....S&W645....feels like a 2x4, heavy, but I can point and shoot that pig better then anything else lol
 
tjhaile said:
Since you're starting from a clean slate, pass on DA/SA pistols. The manual of arms is harder to master than something with one kind of trigger pull.
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Unless he's going to get into competition where he has to lower the hammer for the first shot to be taken in DA mode it may never be an issue.

Besides tell your story to the legions of CZ Shadow shooters that do just fine in the stock classes while shooting the first shot in DA mode. It's just not that big a deal. I'd far rather have to deal with a longer and heavier first trigger pull and enjoy a light SA pull for the rest of the shots than to deal with a constant heavier pull for EVERY shot.

Am I right? Are you right? We're both right! We both tried a few guns and decided what was right for us. Which is what the OP should do since he is lucky enough to live in a city that has a commercial rental range where he can try out a whole bunch of different guns.
 
TDC said:
I'll go one step further and tell you why the Beretta is a bad choice. As far as "fit" goes, the 92 series is a huge beast. Very large grips, overly long and heavy. Slide mounted safety is stupid and DA/SA is outdated. The DA on a Beretta is crazy long, smooth yes, but long. The SA is not crisp and lacks a defined break point. Exposed trigger/transfer bar is a dumb design, exposed barrel is a dumb design. Many 92 series pistols have integral front sights, another dumb design. 64 parts/pieces with a 3 piece locking lug system is another dumb design.
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These are all valid points for sure but other than the size issue are any of them really relevant for a range-only gun? I know if I had to grab a handgun to defend my life or others' it'd be one of my Glocks but that's very, very unlikely to happen (I hope!). As a range-only gun I really enjoy my Beretta. It's accurate, reliable, easily controllable and just plain fun.

Yes, it's not the best choice for competition or defense.

Yes, it's an overly complex and outdated design.

Yes, it's too big for the calibre.

But--is it reliable, accurate and fun to shoot? Hell, yes. And for most Canadian shooters that's what they're looking for in a handgun.
 
dogzilla said:
Hang on till I get my hip boots cause my BS meter just went off. There is a difference between being able to shoot a gun and wanting to shoot it. If a gun isn't comfortable to shoot it is going to stay in the safe. It may be true in the forces or police where they hand you a firearm and say here you go. If you're going to spend your money you want to find something you actually enjoy, after all we are shooting as a hobby and there is more than enough variety out there to find what works best for you
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I utterly despise how the sig 226 feels or fits in my hands, but I can tell you right now the difference in my performance with the sig and my personal favourite the hk p30l is very little. Fit/feel is nearly completely a non issue. If you can apply the basics, you can run any gun well. Why did I put my money on the hk instead of the sig? Simple I trust the HK to last longer than the sig, the superior ergonomics was just a bonus. On a sidenote if you were serious about selling that p30l and it's a lem I will happily take it off your hands.

Master-G said:
These are all valid points for sure but other than the size issue are any of them really relevant for a range-only gun? I know if I had to grab a handgun to defend my life or others' it'd be one of my Glocks but that's very, very unlikely to happen (I hope!). As a range-only gun I really enjoy my Beretta. It's accurate, reliable, easily controllable and just plain fun.

Yes, it's not the best choice for competition or defense.

Yes, it's an overly complex and outdated design.

Yes, it's too big for the calibre.

But--is it reliable, accurate and fun to shoot? Hell, yes. And for most Canadian shooters that's what they're looking for in a handgun.
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Then you agree that the 92fs is not a good idea for a first pistol?
 
ztunelover said:
Then you agree that the 92fs is not a good idea for a first pistol?
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I think a .22LR pistol is the best choice for a first pistol but for casual, range-only use I think a 92FS is fine. I like Glocks a lot but with their unusual grip angle, light weight and unforgiving trigger they are easy to shoot poorly, and I would not recommend them as a first pistol.

AdamO said:
If you have huge mitts, good gun, really reliable.
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I've got small hands myself and don't have an issue either with the DA or SA trigger pull on my Beretta.
 
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