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hi, I'm looking for a pistol. I was originally looking for just a normal looking semi auto .22 pistol (ones that kinda hover around the S+W m+p series look). But then it occured to me that I am probably going to get bored with just a .22. So What I am looking for is a good 9mm, that I would be able to get a .22 conversion kit for, like I said before something that has the nice black look of the m+p series (because I am an evil baby eater), Preferably in the 500-600 dollar range for the pistol, and then the conversion kit can be whatever really. But my dad would also want a pistol so he can go shooting with me, and he just wants a .22 pistol, once again following the nice and black and cheap guidelines.

Also now on to this ATT crap. So I know you can get a long term att, and I seen the sheet but is there anywhere on a how-to on how to fill those out to get my "maximum freedom" with my pistol? Also Ive been told by a couple of people that if you are transporting a pistol to a range or wherever that you cannot make any stops in between, is this true? If so what happens if we wanted to travel a long distance with the pistol? Would we be able to stop for gas or what?

Well I think that is prettywell the extent of my questions, if I have anymore I will ask them, so have at-er guy's.
 
My son bought a SIG226 in 22LR. Then he bought the 40 S&W kit (slide, barrel and mag) to go with it. Total cost at Questar was about $50 more than just buying a 40 cal SIG.

You could do the same with a 22 and 9mm.
 
The best 9MM/.22LR out ther is the CZ75B/85Combat with the CZ .22LR kit conversion. The kits are super accurate. will digest all .22lr ammo and the slide locks back after the last round. Few conversion kits will do all of that. Kit will also fit on the SP-01 series as well.

Take Care

Bob
 
outoftowner said:
... but is there anywhere on a how-to on how to fill those out to get my "maximum freedom" with my pistol?
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This sticky helped me out. Seems to vary by province.

outoftowner said:
Also Ive been told by a couple of people that if you are transporting a pistol to a range or wherever that you cannot make any stops in between, is this true? If so what happens if we wanted to travel a long distance with the pistol? Would we be able to stop for gas or what?
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I believe the wording is "by a route that, in all circumstances, is reasonably direct." Stopping for gas is safe. Claiming that you were on your way from your home in Calgary to a range in Edmonton, when pulled over in Toronto, probably isn't safe.
 
9mm and a .22lr.....

I'd pick up a used Glock 17 off the EE then either get an Advantage Arms .22 lr conversion unit for it or just get a Ruger MkII or MkIII pistol in .22lr. That way if you & your Dad go to the range you could trade off pistols so everyone is having fun at the same time.

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NAA.
 
I acutally really like that 226, can anyone post a link on where I can get one and the conversion kit?

And about transporting it. Say we wanted to just go and show our friend the gun, not shoot it or anything just show him it (he's a really good shooting friend, we always try and one up each other on cool guns lol). But he lives near saskatoon and I like in southern alberta. So would it technically be called "ok" of we just went to show him it?
 
outoftowner said:
And about transporting it. Say we wanted to just go and show our friend the gun, not shoot it or anything just show him it (he's a really good shooting friend, we always try and one up each other on cool guns lol). But he lives near saskatoon and I like in southern alberta. So would it technically be called "ok" of we just went to show him it?
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No you would not be allowed to do this. I am not sure how the long term ATT's work out west but the only reason you can have for transporting a restricted is to take it to a range, gunsmith, or gun dealer for appraisal. You may be able to convince the CFO that you are going to be staying with this friend for a night and then going to the local range that is near his place the next day. YOu would have to get a temporary ATT by calling the CFO in order to transport it for any other reason than range, gunsmith, or dealer.
 
I acutally really like that 226
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https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopdisplaycategories.asp?id=11&cat=SIG+Sauer

now on to this ATT crap
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There is a Chief Firearms Officer for each Province and Territory. The Chief Firearms Officers are responsible for the decision-making and administrative work related to licences, authorizations to transport and authorizations to carry, transfers of firearms by individuals and businesses, and gun show sponsorship approvals.

This involves determining an applicant's eligibility and either issuing, refusing to issue, renewing or revoking the licence, authorization to transport, carry, transfer or sponsor. It also involves setting conditions on these documents.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/cfo-caf/index-eng.htm

Your CFO determines the conditions on your ATT. Ask your CFO.
 
Hi,

I don't think that someone could become bored by shooting a .22lr pistol. It is more fun than any other pistol! Shooting a 9mm could become boring. Not many people are able to constantly make close grouping with a 9mm. It is a fast cartridge and it is more difficult to hold the pistol correctly. Shooting a .45 auto is more fun but also much more costly!

Stick to the .22lr. Buy a Ruger and you will have fun for a long long time....

Jack :)
 
I am not 100% on this, but I think the way the SIG works is that you buy the SIG226 22LR and that frame will also take the centre fire slides and barrrels. SIG sells the conversion kit at a special, attractive price to those who bought the 22.

But, If you have a ordinary SIG226 in centrefire, the 22 slide and barrel won't fit. (I think this is correct.)

My son bought the Sig 22 LR first, and then a month later bought the 40 cal kit to go with it. I guess he could also buy the 9mm kit, too. That would be handy.

He got it from Questar, one of the sponsores. See banner at top of page. Nice people and good service.
 
Ya that is exactly what I am going to do, either im going to buy it from questar but I am going to wait till the easter show to see if I can find a special deal. I'm going to buy the 226 .22, then the 9mm kit.
 
jack_GN said:
Hi,

I don't think that someone could become bored by shooting a .22lr pistol. It is more fun than any other pistol! Shooting a 9mm could become boring. Not many people are able to constantly make close grouping with a 9mm. It is a fast cartridge and it is more difficult to hold the pistol correctly.
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What are you talking about? 9mm Glock 17, 10 yards. And this is after owning the gun less than a month. Still getting used to the trigger pull. It is very different from my .45 1911 but just takes some getting used to.
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from my experience 9mm is far less accurate round in most loadings. Something to do with bullet stability because hollow pointed projectiles are still ok. I wouldn't call 9mm a "fast round". It is actually mediocre all-around round, and slow too. Most production automatic pistols need serious tune up before their inherent groupings can be brought into 2" at 20 yards, henceis such big difference between 22lr and centrefire pistols. Once pistol tuned, rounds constructed correctly and shooter stops twitching there is no difference in grouping between 22 and centrefire, both quite enjoyable to shoot.
 
22lr said:
from my experience 9mm is far less accurate round in most loadings. Something to do with bullet stability because hollow pointed projectiles are still ok. I wouldn't call 9mm a "fast round". It is actually mediocre all-around round, and slow too. Most production automatic pistols need serious tune up before their inherent groupings can be brought into 2" at 20 yards, henceis such big difference between 22lr and centrefire pistols. Once pistol tuned, rounds constructed correctly and shooter stops twitching there is no difference in grouping between 22 and centrefire, both quite enjoyable to shoot.
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Not sure what you mean by any or all of the above but I am curious as to what rounds you target shoot with at 20 yards that travel faster than 1100 fps +or-. When did 9MM become a slow round?

Take Care

Bob
 
22lr said:
from my experience 9mm is far less accurate round in most loadings. Something to do with bullet stability because hollow pointed projectiles are still ok. I wouldn't call 9mm a "fast round". It is actually mediocre all-around round, and slow too. Most production automatic pistols need serious tune up before their inherent groupings can be brought into 2" at 20 yards, henceis such big difference between 22lr and centrefire pistols. Once pistol tuned, rounds constructed correctly and shooter stops twitching there is no difference in grouping between 22 and centrefire, both quite enjoyable to shoot.
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I call :bsFlag: on this - they may be a little harder to shoot quite as well but to say the majority need major tuning before they'll break into the 2" @ 20m is quite a stretch.

Having said that I will say that my half-dozen or eight .22 pistols get more action than any of my centre-fires...;)
 
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