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After not being able to spare time to get shooting for almost a year I've decided to take 2 trips to the range a month... come hell or high water...

Which means I need a cheap source for 9mm and 5.56...

Where can these be had cheaply?

I'm thinking wolf (reloads) for 9mm... anyone suggest alternatives?

What about 5.56?
 
i am also a taker of any hint about this. i know there is a new guy that sells reloads for 9mm but for 5.56 i am lost
 
Custom bullets (I believe they are in Cambridge). I know they do handgun ammo, not sure about rifle. Not sure how good/bad or any info on these guys. I haven't tried any of their stuff.

PM me for their phone # (I won't post it here, due to CGN rules of non-dealers)
 
lcpaintballer said:
Can you load a 5.56 round into a .233 rem?
Bad idea. The cartridge will fit, but it's a bad idea. You can load a 223 round into a 5.56 though, if it makes you feel better.

.223 into 5.56 = OK
5.56 into .223 = NO
 
lcpaintballer said:
Can you load a 5.56 round into a .233 rem?

Yes.

http://www.armalite.com/library/techNotes/tnote45.htm

.223 Remington (SAAMI standard) and 5.56mm (NATO standard) rifle chambers are almost identical. The difference is largely limited to the “freebore,” the cylindrical space in front of the case mouth, and the “lead” or “leade,” the the tapered region that eases the bullet into full engagement with the rifling. NATO and SAAMI cartridges can normally be used interchangeably with no problem.
 
Read more carefully before you get somebody hurt.

What was left out:

BACKGROUND: We are often asked whether our rifles feature NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) or SAAMI (Small Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute) standard chambers, and whether it makes any difference.




hence:


.223 into 5.56 = OK
5.56 into .223 = NO
 
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hahahaha maybe you should read that again...

.223 Remington (SAAMI standard) and 5.56mm (NATO standard) rifle chambers are almost identical. The difference is largely limited to the “freebore,” the cylindrical space in front of the case mouth, and the “lead” or “leade,” the the tapered region that eases the bullet into full engagement with the rifling. NATO and SAAMI cartridges can normally be used interchangeably with no problem.

It doesn't make a difference who manufactures the firearm if it's made to standard...

Millions of rounds of NATO ammunition have been fired safely in Eagle Arms' and ArmaLite’s SAAMI chambers over the past 15 years. Occasionally a non-standard round (of generally imported) ammunition will fit too tightly in the leade, and resistance to early bullet movement can cause elevated chamber pressures. These pressures are revealed by overly flattened or powder stains that reveal gasses leaking around the primer.

oops... there goes your "no 5.56mm into a .223", unless you know better than Armalite... learn how to read...
 
5.56mm v. 223 Remington

Deconfusing the issues of a couple of differences...

Almost a quarter of a century ago, SAAMI recognized potential problems with shooters assuming that the 5.56mm cartridge was identical to the commercially available .223 Remington round. Here is their 31 January 1979 release, with some minor errors corrected:
With the appearance of full metal jacket military 5.56 ammunition on the commercial Market, it has come to the attention of the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI) that the use of military 5.56mm ammunition in sporting rifles chambered for Caliber .223 Remington cartridges can lead to higher-than-normal chamber pressures and possible hazards for the firearm, its user and bystanders.

Tests have confirmed that chamber pressures in a sporting rifle may be significantly higher in the same gun when using military 5.56mm ammunition rather than commercially loaded Caliber .223 Remington cartridges, according to SAAMI.

SAAMI points out that chambers for military rifles have a different throat configuration than chambers for sporting firearms which, together with the full metal jacket of the military projectile, may account for the higher pressures which result when military ammunition is fired in a sporting chamber.

SAAMI recommends that a firearm be fired only with the cartridge for which it is specifically chambered by the manufacturer.​


http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html


oops... there goes your "no 5.56mm into a .223", unless you know better than Armalite... learn how to read...

It appears to be that it is probably not me that has the comprehension problem.
 
I second the BDX call. 124gr is very accurate, with a lower SD than most factory ammo.
 
agilent_one, if you're talking about using a 5.56 round in a hunting rifle chambered for .223 then I agree, might not be a good idea.

Using 5.56 in a AR-15 style rifle chambered for .223 is not a problem, as indicated by Armalite's technical note published in 2004. From the original post looking for bulk 9mm and 5.56mm, I think that is the situation in this case.

Cheers,
Mike
 
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