Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Some folks will just never get it. Well said Boomer.
9mm carbine ???
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Some folks will just never get it. Well said Boomer.
Turkeyslayer 1300
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Russell, Ontario
Have you ever fired a 9mm of any sort? Or any firearm at a living thing?
I think that Boomer and Ardent are telling you it is a bad idea, because it is a bad idea. They certainly have experience to back what they say, do you?
I could very well be wrong but I believe Ardent, Boomer and yourself have never tried hunting with a 9mm? Have you?
Marlin Camp 9...remember when you could buy them at Canadian Tire along with the .45 ACP version? I do! And every critter shot with it, was recovered and went down no further than if shot with the recommended traditional centerfire rifles.
Within the next couple years I'll be heading stateside for hogs and deer (actually property is what I'll be looking for but might as well go hunting at the same time) with my 10mm Kimber and yes, you can bet your @$$ my Inglis Hi-Power will be coming along as well!!!
BTW, don't let the number of posts on an internet forum mislead you. Posts do not reflect experience in the field!
I was refering to my own numbers!
If you spend enough time at a gun range you soon realize there is more talk than show. Internet forums are the same. Not saying that is the case with theses 2, they are most likely very knowledgeable people and experienced shooters/hunters as am I.
I know from experience what a properly constructed and well placed 9mm bullet can do when fired from a carbine length barrel at close range. Whether or not others agree...it will take down any North American animal just as quickly as a larger cartridge!
This will be my last comment. The OP can make his/her own decision on the subject.
The CX Storm is a fun gun but, maybe a tad pricey for some.
It can be used as a paper killer , beer can slayer shooting varmints at close to med. far distances (under 100yrds)
It can even be used for home defense or for personal protection for when the big shake comes(remember Haiti?)
The ejection can be switched for left or right handed shooters.
There are magazine options for 10 round magazines.
No need to worry about pinning it to five rounds.
Then again when the siht hits the fan, who is going to worry about a five round pinned magazine.
Can it kill a deer? Yup, it sure can (not my first choice)and who cares what I think anyways...
Are there better guns for that? Yup, there sure are and I would start with a 30-30 for the smallest of the ungulates .
So maybe the OP should feed us some more info on his quest for such a cool lil gun.
Shootem if you got em.
Rob
It can be used as a paper killer , beer can slayer shooting varmints at close to med. far distances (under 100yrds)
It can even be used for home defense or for personal protection for when the big shake comes(remember Haiti?)
The ejection can be switched for left or right handed shooters.
There are magazine options for 10 round magazines.
No need to worry about pinning it to five rounds.
Then again when the siht hits the fan, who is going to worry about a five round pinned magazine.
Can it kill a deer? Yup, it sure can (not my first choice)and who cares what I think anyways...
Are there better guns for that? Yup, there sure are and I would start with a 30-30 for the smallest of the ungulates .
So maybe the OP should feed us some more info on his quest for such a cool lil gun.
Shootem if you got em.
Rob
tactical lever
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Fox Creek, Alberta
I'd probably limit it to stuff around 100 lbs. or so within 100 yds. But depending on the the shot and range, I'd go a little bigger. In a carbine it actually has a fair amount of sizzle. Always thought it would make a great coyote gun at closer ranges.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I could very well be wrong but I believe Ardent, Boomer and yourself have never tried hunting with a 9mm? Have you?
Marlin Camp 9...remember when you could buy them at Canadian Tire along with the .45 ACP version? I do! And every critter shot with it, was recovered and went down no further than if shot with the recommended traditional centerfire rifles.
Within the next couple years I'll be heading stateside for hogs and deer (actually property is what I'll be looking for but might as well go hunting at the same time) with my 10mm Kimber and yes, you can bet your @$$ my Inglis Hi-Power will be coming along as well!!!
BTW, don't let the number of posts on an internet forum mislead you. Posts do not reflect experience in the field!
Does your post refer top what you've done or to what you're going to do? I frequently carry a handgun for bear work, but a gun that is suitable for protection does not necessarily make a suitable hunting gun for the same game animal.
The object of the defensive arm is to prevent a dangerous animal from touching you, the logic being that if it can't touch you, it can't hurt you. In this respect a 9mm loaded with heavy non-expanding truncated cone bullets chosen for maximum penetration and wound diameter is the bare minimum for the task. This task can be defined as punching a hole through the brain, from a range of several feet, in hopes that the lobotomized critter will cease all forward motion. The action is unanticipated or a powerful rifle or a shotgun would be employed, but the defensive arm must always be with the carrier who is engaged in other activities, suggesting a small, light weight arm, of minimum bulk. The hunter is under no such constraints.
The hunting scenario differs from the defensive scenario. You know at the outset that you will be shooting at a game animal so the gun you carry is not in the service pistol category even if it is one that is worn rather than carried. When big game hunting, even a close range shot will be taken at 25 yards, unless from a blind over bait, in which case that range might be cut in half. A head shot is seldom a viable option when big game hunting, the target is too small and usually in motion, and a minor error in bullet placement will result in an animal which escapes wounded, leaving little or no blood trail to follow up. A 115-150 gr bullet at 1000 fps would certainly rate as a minimalist approach to a body shot on any big game animal, and I see no morality in choosing the least suitable tool to do the job. The issue is not about what a pip-squeek round can do under ideal circumstances, its about what it can't do when things go south, and my life experience suggests to me that things don't always go to plan.
Turkeyslayer 1300
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Russell, Ontario
I could very well be wrong but I believe Ardent, Boomer and yourself have never tried hunting with a 9mm? Have you?
Marlin Camp 9...remember when you could buy them at Canadian Tire along with the .45 ACP version? I do! And every critter shot with it, was recovered and went down no further than if shot with the recommended traditional centerfire rifles.
Within the next couple years I'll be heading stateside for hogs and deer (actually property is what I'll be looking for but might as well go hunting at the same time) with my 10mm Kimber and yes, you can bet your @$$ my Inglis Hi-Power will be coming along as well!!!
BTW, don't let the number of posts on an internet forum mislead you. Posts do not reflect experience in the field!
I am too young to remember any CT's really carrying guns. As far as hunting with a 9mm I must admit I have not, however I have executed a few varmints with .44 specials and .38 +p's from a rifle. Most were in cage traps, they tended to keep growling if shot behind the shoulder.
Going by that I would avoid shooting larger critters.
