9mm Colt 1911 for sale! ALERT!!

prproulx said:
One for sale at
h ttp://www.firearmscanada.com/sell/
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There's one in the EE too..... Colt Combat Commander.... ;)

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prproulx said:
There have been a few scammers at firearmscanada selling guns that don't exist in Canada.
Me I am afraid to deal with anyone there who I don't know. Get lots of pics, get specific information before you send money.
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One reason I give noobs with no real history and a "0" trader rating on here a pass. There's been too many scammers lately.

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I have bought several firearms from the Canada Firearms sight over the years and have aquired some awesome deals with no problems. As well have met through these sales some honest to goodness gun nutz with similar interests as ourselves. Some I have even kept in contact with and have bought and sold guns from these guys as well.

However, once I came across an H & K 9mm Jubilee edition pistol, still in the box with the medalion and everything for a grand. I didn't know it at the time, but these are extremely valuable collector's items and only 500 made, etc,, So anyway I emailed the guy, asked questions, gave him my pal number, etc, and sent him a money order for the grand plus shipping. I waited for him to return me with a CFC reference number, but it never came. I called the CFC to see if anyone had started a recent transfer to my PAL, but nothing came up. Contact with the seller ended. Turns out it was a scam and myself, along with two other guys got suckered, there was no such gun.

Went to the bank, nothing they could do to stop the money order, even though they knew by the serial number tracking system the MO had not been cashed yet. Went to the RCMP, not much they could do either.

So figured that was the end of that, lesson hopefully learned and move on. Then about a month later I got this small envelope from the maritimes somewhere with a letter and my money order back. The letter was from what I think looked like some little old lady somewhere in the Maritimes who was very honest and very good at writing a "scolding" letter (but not good at spelling) and said she did not know who was sending her all these money orders, but did not have any guns for sale and did not want the money. Talk about luck or what, I was so happy I went out and bought a gun.

Lesson number one: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is! (but not necessarily always because some guys just want to dump the gun fast and sometimes guys don't really know what they have, this is what gives us the "thrill of the chase" so to speak)
Lesson number two: If you do think you have a legitimate seller, tell him you will send him a deposit first, he registers the gun on your PAL and gives you a reference number. Once approved by the RCMP, then and only then send him the rest of the money, then he ships. I never buy guns from this sight unless the seller agrees to do it this way.
Lesson number three: always get the sellers name, address two phone numbers and PAL number early in the transaction, if not first. Try to pay by check, (the check has lots of time to clear anyway due to the registration times involved) The check is better I think because you get it back and a money order offers no safety in case of a fraud.
Lesson number four: When buying guns from any website, keep careful track of any notes you made during the sale, keep track of the guns reference number (if you get it), Insist that any gun sent by the seller carries at least enought loss/damage insurance to cover what you paid for the gun, send registered mail (get the shipping tracking number from from seller and file with your notes) with signiture and remember rule number two.

Thats one of my experiences with Canadian Fireams sight.
 
Grant you are one lucky Dude .
Now that I read your post I will think twice before sending EMT , specialy if it's over $1000
Maybe your better paying 200-300 at your local gun shop then lose $1000 because you wanted to save a few hundred
 
I'll bet in the "scam" referred to above the "seller" initially wanted or tried to get payment via Western Union or Moneygram wire money transfer. Likely, he only agreed to a MO payment to keep the "deal" alive as much as he could so that he could scam others before it got noted that his ad was a scam and got taken down off the site? Likely he had no intention of receiving or cashing a MO that could be traced back to him.

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A lot of innocent buyers have been scammed on Firearms Canada in the past few months. I am very cautious when viewing items for sale there, especially if the asking price appears "too good to be true."
Grant--I'm pleased that you were able to recover your money. Others in the same boat have not been so lucky. There needs to be a safer way of dealing on that site.Too bad they don't have a rating system. Another reason why Canadian Gun Nutz is the best. :)
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grant580 said:
I have bought several firearms from the Canada Firearms sight over the years and have aquired some awesome deals with no problems. As well have met through these sales some honest to goodness gun nutz with similar interests as ourselves. Some I have even kept in contact with and have bought and sold guns from these guys as well.

However, once I came across an H & K 9mm Jubilee edition pistol, still in the box with the medalion and everything for a grand. I didn't know it at the time, but these are extremely valuable collector's items and only 500 made, etc,, So anyway I emailed the guy, asked questions, gave him my pal number, etc, and sent him a money order for the grand plus shipping. I waited for him to return me with a CFC reference number, but it never came. I called the CFC to see if anyone had started a recent transfer to my PAL, but nothing came up. Contact with the seller ended. Turns out it was a scam and myself, along with two other guys got suckered, there was no such gun.

Went to the bank, nothing they could do to stop the money order, even though they knew by the serial number tracking system the MO had not been cashed yet. Went to the RCMP, not much they could do either.

So figured that was the end of that, lesson hopefully learned and move on. Then about a month later I got this small envelope from the maritimes somewhere with a letter and my money order back. The letter was from what I think looked like some little old lady somewhere in the Maritimes who was very honest and very good at writing a "scolding" letter (but not good at spelling) and said she did not know who was sending her all these money orders, but did not have any guns for sale and did not want the money. Talk about luck or what, I was so happy I went out and bought a gun.

Lesson number one: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is! (but not necessarily always because some guys just want to dump the gun fast and sometimes guys don't really know what they have, this is what gives us the "thrill of the chase" so to speak)
Lesson number two: If you do think you have a legitimate seller, tell him you will send him a deposit first, he registers the gun on your PAL and gives you a reference number. Once approved by the RCMP, then and only then send him the rest of the money, then he ships. I never buy guns from this sight unless the seller agrees to do it this way.
Lesson number three: always get the sellers name, address two phone numbers and PAL number early in the transaction, if not first. Try to pay by check, (the check has lots of time to clear anyway due to the registration times involved) The check is better I think because you get it back and a money order offers no safety in case of a fraud.
Lesson number four: When buying guns from any website, keep careful track of any notes you made during the sale, keep track of the guns reference number (if you get it), Insist that any gun sent by the seller carries at least enought loss/damage insurance to cover what you paid for the gun, send registered mail (get the shipping tracking number from from seller and file with your notes) with signiture and remember rule number two.

Thats one of my experiences with Canadian Fireams sight.
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I am very happy your "burned" story has a happy ending, most don't.

I understand what you are saying here grant, I was "burned" on a deal on Firearms Canada.... I got the Pistol, but it was a beat-up broke down pistol, not the "cherry" piece I was expecting. It is one of the reasons I no longer frequent that site.

On the other hand, There is no way I would agree to the conditions you state here for closing a deal. The reason why is that once I transfer a firearm into your name with the CFC, you can call the RCMP/CFC and force me to hand over the firearm, and all I have is your deposit and not the full purchase price. Once it is transfered into your name it is YOUR PROPERTY, and I am no longer able to hold onto it while waiting for payment. I could "lein" the pistol, but how do you enforce that?

I personaly will not initiate the transfer of the firearm untill it is "paid in full".... In turn I would not expect you to initiate transfer untill you are paid in full..... If thats a deal breaker, so be it, I can find another buyer.

Just my $.02, You sound like a reasonable & honest guy...... But not everybody out there is.....

Cheers!
 
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