9mm processed brass source?
- Thread starter mshundal
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I cannot access the EE as of yet
So I bought 1000 pieces for $65.00 at FOC in Ajax. It looks like good brass although I'm looking to find better pricing myself all the time.
BlackSheepBrass
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- Cobourg, Ontario
Firearms Outlet Canada - 9mm Camdex Processed $65 per 1,000
If you wanted 5,000 or more then you can contact me directly and I provide a slight discount as it saves me having to retail package, delivering it, etc...
In response to Ontariooutdoorsman looking for a better pricing see below
I provide the brass to FOC. You will be hard pressed to beat the price for brass that was processed on anything more than a Dillon 1050. Even in the USA people are charging between $55 and $70 USD per 1,000 of 9mm Camdex processed brass.
The reason why even at $65 per 1,000 it is a fair price is that from the time it hits the range floor to when it goes out for retail sale from my shop is that it passes through almost $80,000 in equipment. This is even before I factor in my labour, raw materials, cost of employees, fuel and maintenance for my truck to go pick it up, or the $10,000 I just spent on upgrading the shop on heat, lights, hydro and insulation.
I just ordered a brand new Camdex 2100 processor in 9mm so I will have 2 of them now. This will increase my throughput and provide redundancy. $26,500 USD. In addition to the buying the equipment, keeping them maintained and operational is time-consuming and expensive. I just broke a "shell-plate" on my 9mm processor as it is a consumable part over millions of pieces. $1,000 CDN landed to my shop to replace it.
If you wanted 5,000 or more then you can contact me directly and I provide a slight discount as it saves me having to retail package, delivering it, etc...
In response to Ontariooutdoorsman looking for a better pricing see below
I provide the brass to FOC. You will be hard pressed to beat the price for brass that was processed on anything more than a Dillon 1050. Even in the USA people are charging between $55 and $70 USD per 1,000 of 9mm Camdex processed brass.
The reason why even at $65 per 1,000 it is a fair price is that from the time it hits the range floor to when it goes out for retail sale from my shop is that it passes through almost $80,000 in equipment. This is even before I factor in my labour, raw materials, cost of employees, fuel and maintenance for my truck to go pick it up, or the $10,000 I just spent on upgrading the shop on heat, lights, hydro and insulation.
I just ordered a brand new Camdex 2100 processor in 9mm so I will have 2 of them now. This will increase my throughput and provide redundancy. $26,500 USD. In addition to the buying the equipment, keeping them maintained and operational is time-consuming and expensive. I just broke a "shell-plate" on my 9mm processor as it is a consumable part over millions of pieces. $1,000 CDN landed to my shop to replace it.
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BlackSheepBrass
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- Cobourg, Ontario
Thanks Ganderite,
I haven't seen you since I relocated further South. If you are down my way let me know and I will show you the new setup..... it is a little less compact than my previous location.
I haven't seen you since I relocated further South. If you are down my way let me know and I will show you the new setup..... it is a little less compact than my previous location.
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- Kawartha Lakes
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- Southern Ontario
quick question...
what is considered processed? just washing and popping the primer or swaging as well??
i just picked up 4000 a week ago, can hand de-prime in an evening or two...but swage (roughtly 10%) is the pain-in-the-ass part of the process to me
thanx
might just be interested in a few thousand more as well as .223
BlackSheepBrass
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- Cobourg, Ontario
Camdex processed is a very particular and thorough process.
It goes through the following steps.
After it is fed into the machine first it is checked for debris or a berdan primer. If it fails that it is ejected from the machine without shutting down.
Next, it checks for short, cracked, blown out, or pierced primers. If it fails that it is ejected from the machine without shutting down.
Third, it de-primes the case and completes a partial resize on it.
Then it checks to ensure proper de-prime has taken place.
After that, it completes a full length resize and swage (1 step)
Finally, it ejects the case through a carbide sizing die that ensures the rim and base of the case are within specification.
The end result is brass that loads like brand new essentially. The difference between what these machines produce and what the average reloader is going to do is in sorts comparing a Hyundai Pony to a Porsche 911....
The Camdex 2100 series has "tonnage" to be able to form and work the cartridge at high speed. It is essentially just a small transfer press. Even a Dillon Super 1050 does not have "tonnage" it might only be able to exert a few hundred pounds of force.
As a side note; I have decided to pull my processor out of service for a few weeks as I was noticing some mechanical issues that were causing quality degradation. I will be taking it down to Camdex for a rebuild. Unfortunately, my commitment to quality is expensive; although Camdex is a fan of me (or my money)
It goes through the following steps.
After it is fed into the machine first it is checked for debris or a berdan primer. If it fails that it is ejected from the machine without shutting down.
Next, it checks for short, cracked, blown out, or pierced primers. If it fails that it is ejected from the machine without shutting down.
Third, it de-primes the case and completes a partial resize on it.
Then it checks to ensure proper de-prime has taken place.
After that, it completes a full length resize and swage (1 step)
Finally, it ejects the case through a carbide sizing die that ensures the rim and base of the case are within specification.
The end result is brass that loads like brand new essentially. The difference between what these machines produce and what the average reloader is going to do is in sorts comparing a Hyundai Pony to a Porsche 911....
The Camdex 2100 series has "tonnage" to be able to form and work the cartridge at high speed. It is essentially just a small transfer press. Even a Dillon Super 1050 does not have "tonnage" it might only be able to exert a few hundred pounds of force.
As a side note; I have decided to pull my processor out of service for a few weeks as I was noticing some mechanical issues that were causing quality degradation. I will be taking it down to Camdex for a rebuild. Unfortunately, my commitment to quality is expensive; although Camdex is a fan of me (or my money)
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- Kawartha Lakes
I'm very good with the brass I purchased. Now....If you have British 303 brass shoot me a pm
I don't know if that would be of any help to you, but what I did is buy a case of 1000 rounds of IMI 9mm when it was on sale. Shot all of it last year, and kept the brass. Given how many times one can reload 9mm, it's like having an almost-endless supply of fired cases.
BlackSheepBrass
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- Cobourg, Ontario
Thanks guys,
I am working at getting the Camdex back up, my commercial clients have been consuming all my time, and not allowing me any down time to actually fix my down equipment. I will be working this week at getting the Camdex processor back up. It just needs a couple of hours of work.... problem is getting motivated to do it when I know the machine is heading down to Camdex shortly for a complete rebuild.
I have ordered my second processor to build in the redundancy. If everything keeps up at this pace I might add a Camdex .223 Processor prior to the of end of 2017. They are around $35,000 USD, but the brass they process is top notch.
I am working at getting the Camdex back up, my commercial clients have been consuming all my time, and not allowing me any down time to actually fix my down equipment. I will be working this week at getting the Camdex processor back up. It just needs a couple of hours of work.... problem is getting motivated to do it when I know the machine is heading down to Camdex shortly for a complete rebuild.
I have ordered my second processor to build in the redundancy. If everything keeps up at this pace I might add a Camdex .223 Processor prior to the of end of 2017. They are around $35,000 USD, but the brass they process is top notch.
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Got Juice?
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I was looking to purchase one, the cost is not bad, because their capacity, and rate of production is so high. Do you change calibers over or is it best to buy a completely new machine?
