9mm revolver reccomendations?

srryan

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I'm in the process of building my collection (Sig P226 .22 and 9mm currently) and have decided due to price of ammo for .357 and .44 mag I'd like a 9mm revolver. I've seen the Alfa Proj ones on Wolverine's website I'm just wondering if there is anything out there I should consider that I just haven't seen yet. Anybody have any experience with the Alfa or have some suggestions for another model?
 
I recently acquired a steel framed Alfa with the short cylinder from Rustywood here in BC and while I have not shot it yet, the test target that came with it looks pretty good and the machining, balance, grips are excellent. It comes with 2 moonclips that are needed for extraction with the push rod (the gun will shoot 9mm without the moonclips headspacing off the case mouth but gravity or a push rod will be needed to remove the empties) and Rusty has more in stock. They also provide a spring kit free of charge with the purchase which lowers the trigger pull. The trigger feels pretty good but it stacks up a bit more then Smiths and Rugers and feels a bit heavy right before the break. Otherwise it feels pretty good for a brand new trigger on an inexpensive revolver.

The short cylinder model of the 9mm is a bit different because the rest of the space in the frame is used by the barrel which results in a Cdn legal barrel length in a revolver that basically has a 4 inch barrel measured from the front of the frame.

Rustywood has them on sale right now and Peter is also a good gunsmith which is nice if you ever need it worked on.....plus they tell me they are the warranty depot in Canada for Alfa.
 
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The only options at this stage would be to look for a used S&W 547 or a Ruger Speed Six, but be prepared for a high price.
 
Wait for the S&W's to become widely available up here, I've seen about 10 Alfa brand revolvers now in 22, 9mm and 38spec and they've all been horrible when it comes to ejecting casings, seen owners having to pound on the ejector rod to get the cases out.

Overall not impressed with the product at all, polishing the cylinders may fix that issue but out of the box that is wack.

These issues were seen with brass and aluminum cased ammo and was all factory loads.
 
Well, my own 9mm AP hasn't shown me any issues like that. The spent casings drop out just fine. Hardly even need to use the ejector. But I may be the exception. I used it in a match a few weeks back and it ran like a champ all day with only a little powder fouling stickiness towards the end after a couple of hundred rounds fired.

If this is to be your only revolver you need to know that they are a new company with a new product and there isn't a long track record. So buying an AP gun could be seen as a bit of a gamble. A more sure introduction would be to go for a S&W in .38Spl, .357Mag or even .44Mag and start reloading to hold down costs.
 
I'm really liking my Alpha Project 9261. Here's my initial review of it - http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1032008-Project-Alpha-Model-9261-Review-Updated-with-Picks-of-the-Trigger-Mechisms. BCRider did a great review of his as well.

I've got about 1500 rounds through it since I got it and have had no problems with ejecting the spent brass when using the moon clips. I do clean out the barrel and cylinder every couple of range trips though. The only problem I've had is the rear sight coming loose (fixed with a drop of blue loctite), and the pivot bolt that attaches the cylinder arm to the frame worked loose so the cylinder got a little loose when opened - that one could be my fault. May not have tightened up the capture nut enough the last time I took the cylinder off. I am starting to notice the lockup loosening up a bit. Nothing serious yet, and probably would not have noticed except one of the fellows at the range let me shoot his Colt Python. That thing has a SOLID lockup and sweet trigger. If I had the money, I'd buy the Colt to fondle, and the Project Alpha to shoot. Just wish they would make one in 45acp. May have a line on a S&W 625 to fill that need.
 
A cool little revolver was Ruger's fixed sight Speed Six which was built in 9mm with a short barrel for a French police contract, IIRC. I never saw one, but it would be an interesting gun to add to the pile. If I was looking for a new 9mm revolver, I'd probably go with Ruger's Convertable Blackhawk, that way my gun would have the versatility of shooting .357s and .38s, as well as 9mm, without the need of moon clips at twelve bucks a piece. The Alpha Proj revolver looks interesting and its reasonably priced, but with the additional cost of the moon clips (I'd probably start with 10, and loose half of them, then have to buy another 10, and repeat ad infinitum) it would be enough make me to choose a .357 in the first place.

Whichever gun you choose, reloading is the best way to mitigate the cost of ammunition. It allows you to choose the level of performance that suits you, while being an interesting hobby in its own right. The .38 Special can be very economical to load for, when loaded with a few grains of Bullseye under light weight cast bullets, or it can be made into a fire breather. Naturally slower burning powders require heavier charges, perhaps hotter primers, and jacketed bullets if you prefer them, all being more expensive, so there can be some latitude in the final cost. As a rule of thumb, each time a cartridge is reloaded, you save the cost of the brass and packaging. If you consider ammunition cost per thousand rounds, it can provide you with much more shooting per dollar spent. While there is a capital cost to get set up, that cost can be surprisingly modest, and can be recouped quickly. Once you're in the game, you can purchase more tools to address any bottle necks in your loading procedure. I started with .38/.357 Lee Loader, and within a year I had purchased a press, dies, and scale. If shooting handguns had eclipsed my interest in rifle shooting, perhaps I'd have eventually purchased a progressive loader, but over the last 40 years I've been more or less content to put out rounds for both handguns and rifles on a single stage press, although now I'm being tempted by a Redding turret press.
 
Wait for the S&W's to become widely available up here, I've seen about 10 Alfa brand revolvers now in 22, 9mm and 38spec and they've all been horrible when it comes to ejecting casings, seen owners having to pound on the ejector rod to get the cases out.

Overall not impressed with the product at all, polishing the cylinders may fix that issue but out of the box that is wack.

These issues were seen with brass and aluminum cased ammo and was all factory loads.

I just did a quick trip to the range this morning and also had some sticky extraction with the steel cased lacquered Ukaraian Canammo 9mm.
The first 6 rounds I ran through the gun were what was left of a box of factory brass ammo and they came out smooth as butter but the lacquered steel berdan was sticky. I didn't pound it out though I tapped gently and after about 6 or 7 quick light taps ( used the side of the vinyl cap on the unloading tool) they came out and I fired 100 rounds that way. I also had some commercial reloads but they must be a little big as they would not seat fully and I've also had issues running the same ammo in a tight aftermarket glock barrel.

I also noticed that not all the moonclips were the same as 3 of the 8 I had would not let the steel cased ammo seat fully into the cylinder.

The gun shot pretty well without any sight adjustments....maybe a bit high but good enough for steel plates at 25 and 50 yards.

I'll try some new brass on the next trip.
 
Wait for the S&W's to become widely available up here, I've seen about 10 Alfa brand revolvers now in 22, 9mm and 38spec and they've all been horrible when it comes to ejecting casings, seen owners having to pound on the ejector rod to get the cases out.

Overall not impressed with the product at all, polishing the cylinders may fix that issue but out of the box that is wack.

These issues were seen with brass and aluminum cased ammo and was all factory loads.

I have an Alfa Proj 2261 in 22 and 9251 in 9mm and I love them!!! I shoot over 2000 22 rounds and 5-600 9mm. Both guns are accurate and work as they should. Importer is providing in-house warranty, right here in Canada...
 
Well, my own 9mm AP hasn't shown me any issues like that. The spent casings drop out just fine. Hardly even need to use the ejector. But I may be the exception. I used it in a match a few weeks back and it ran like a champ all day with only a little powder fouling stickiness towards the end after a couple of hundred rounds fired.

If this is to be your only revolver you need to know that they are a new company with a new product and there isn't a long track record. So buying an AP gun could be seen as a bit of a gamble. A more sure introduction would be to go for a S&W in .38Spl, .357Mag or even .44Mag and start reloading to hold down costs.

They're not thaaaaat new. I mean, they're the second largest firearms manufacturer in the Czech Republic. That's gotta count for something.
 
A cool little revolver was Ruger's fixed sight Speed Six which was built in 9mm with a short barrel for a French police contract, IIRC. I never saw one, but it would be an interesting gun to add to the pile.

I had a pair of stainless steel Speed Sixes in 9mm but unfortunately sold them. They were good shooters but not great. I heard they used the same barrel as the .38 and .357 which may have accounted for its lackluster accuracy but I cannot confirm the bore measurement. Mine had the 2 3/4" barrels. They were heavy rascals and the round butt was nice to grip, much more so than the square butt of the Service Six for me. As with all the Ruger Sixes they are rugged revolvers and will likely last several lifetimes.

The Speed Six used moon clips and Ruger experimented with a spring type of extractor similar to the Pit Bull for a foreign police force. This force may have been French or Israeli. Unfortunately this version did not enter production.

Another interesting Speed Six I have seen was chambered in .38/200 for India.
 
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