9mm with most recoil?

Still alive said:
I agree about the P7. Considering that it is an all steel gun, very low bore axis with a gas system, it surprisingly kicks a lot.
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Yeah the P7 kind of surprised me too I was expecting less snap. I have an Arsenal strike one and it recoils as softly as my CZ75 and that's a real accomplishment out of a polymer frame gun.
 
How you hold the gun and how the grips fit you makes a difference to the felt recoil kick. If you don't hold it correctly in the right position and there is poor contact with the back strap the gun will fly back and slap your hand during the recoil. And that will feel like it kicks more.

But really I've not found that any 9mm that I'm holding correctly has a huge amount of recoil. If it's MORE kick you are after than get a .40S&W or .357Sig. Or come on over to the revolver side and shoot .357Mag and .44Mag. If that's not enough there's always .454 Casull, .460S&W Mag and .500S&W Mag.
 
BCRider said:
How you hold the gun and how the grips fit you makes a difference to the felt recoil kick. If you don't hold it correctly in the right position and there is poor contact with the back strap the gun will fly back and slap your hand during the recoil. And that will feel like it kicks more.

But really I've not found that any 9mm that I'm holding correctly has a huge amount of recoil. If it's MORE kick you are after than get a .40S&W or .357Sig. Or come on over to the revolver side and shoot .357Mag and .44Mag. If that's not enough there's always .454 Casull, .460S&W Mag and .500S&W Mag.
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Ain't that the truth....wise words..
 
I'm a big fan of the snap a .45 cal 1911 produces. Sharp but manageable. The only 9mms I've shot are the glock 17, H&K VP9, and the Beretta M9. Of the 3 I really like the feel of the Glock since it felt snappy and I could shoot it pretty well. The VP9 and especially the M9 felt really soft and I was nowhere near as accurate. Don't get me wrong, I understand that low recoil is a good thing in a firearm and the M9 grips were a bit too big for my hands but half the fun of shooting comes from feeling a bit of kick IMO. I love 1911s but .45 gets expensive! That's why I'm looking at getting a 9mm because the cheaper ammo. I've shot .40 cal out of a 226 and a Glock and it seems overly harsh. I might just get a Glock lol. Any have any input on how a Walther PPQ shoots compared to a Glock 17/19?
 
My little American Derringer in 9mm stings a bit.


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Master-G said:
Recoil is hard to quantify. As others have mentioned upthread, lighter pistols generally tend to recoil more--it's the whole "equal and opposite reaction" thing. But there's more to it than that--higher bore axis can amplify recoil by exaggerating muzzle flip (there's more of a lever effect for the recoil forces). Grip angle can affect recoil--a steeper angle means the recoil pushes back into the wrist more, and will tend to minimize flip. A heavier slide can add to recoil since it's a large rapidly reciprocating mass. Action types (blowback/gas retarded/Browning locked breech) can also change the feel. Even how someone grips a pistol also affects it.

Finally, there's personal perception. Some of the pistols mentioned above by others as having more recoil (the USP and P7) I find quite mild. For me, I've always felt that the Glock 17 had the sharpest recoil in 9mm while others say it's quite soft-shooting.
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Agreed, high barrel axis above the shooting hand = more perceived recoil/muzzle flip.

I love watching Hollywood actors holding like this.........

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Of the guns I have shot I find the Walthers to have the most muzzle flip/recoil. Two things contribute the weight of the gun and the length of the barrel. The two generally go together. The Walther has a relatively short barrel and is very light. Longer barrels tend to both add weight and add weight at the front of the gun which reduces muzzle flip. Glocks are pretty light but due to the grip angle they seem to have less muzzle flip. Please don't get me wrong I actually quite like the Walthers I find they have a nice grip, a good trigger and are accurate.
 
The G19 is certainly "snappy" with hot 115 grain loads. After a couple hundred fast rounds you definitely notice you've been shooting, especially in cold weather.
 
I have both an HK p30 and an HK sfp9, which are based on the same frame (more or less) I find the sfp9 to have a recoil that is almost unpleasant compared to the p30. That said, recoil is subjective, so felt recoil varies from person to person, so it is no wonder you can't find anything saying any gun kicks more than another.
 
Still alive said:
The smaller and lighter the gun, the shorter or smaller the gripping surface, the more it will kick. Also the hotter the ammo. Just physics.
I would say, by that logic, a Glock 43 type or a Boberg with +P ammo would kick the most.

Another way of getting a 9mm to kick hard is to hold it badly and loosely! But don't blame me if you drop the gun!
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Also, the further the barrel is from your hand, due to leverage. A 1911-22 might have more kick than an M&P22, but if it's an all steel gun vs. polymer, that would change the equation again.
 
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