9x23mm Steyr surplus ammo availability ?
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man if you shoot 9x23 WW out of a destroyer your mighty brave man. very very hot rounds, to hot for that lil guy I personally think. I also had some and shotu 1 round out of my destroyer,,,
where did the tok convert4d destroyer come from? EE here? is it converted to use T33 mags?
I converted the Destroyer to 7.62x25 myself. It was done to get my grandson used to a rifle with a bit more recoil than a 22 rimfire and with a bit more noise as well. It worked well and he didn't develop a flinch.
The Czhec ammo is pretty hot stuff. At least as hot as the 9x23. I haven't noticed any issues with either rifle. The tt33 mag just happened to fit the rifle I converted very well. It sticks in the other.
Those little Destroyers are fairly tough. I have watched them both carefully for any set back and haven't seen any indication of it yet.
There were at least a half dozen people that warned loudly about converting the Destroyer to take the 7.62 tok. I think the strength of the Destroyer action/bolt, is underestimated but that is just IMHO. I wouldn't recommend anyone else doing it and I won't do it for anyone else.
When I'm finished with the rifle, I will put on a 9mm barrel and chamber it to 9x19
I think maybe there's some confusion over the Roth-Steyr vs the Steyr-Hahn. The Roth-Steyr 1907 was issued exclusively to Austro-Hungarian cavalry, in 8 x 19mm, and never sold commercially or exported. The Steyr-Hahn 1911 & 1912 in 9 x 23mm were exported to Chile and Romania (1911, fixed front sight) and issued to officer's of other branches in the Austro-Hungarian military (1912, dovetailed front sight). Chilean Steyr 1911s are easy to find, Austrian Steyr 1912s much harder, and Roth-Steyr 1907s are very difficult to find in Canada.
My Chilean 1911 and Roth-Steyr. The Roth-Steyr is regimentally marked to the 10th Dragoons out of Krakow. The 9mm Steyr round is Geco, the 8mm Steyr is Fiocchi. 8mm Steyr shoots a 113 grain bullet just shy of 1100 FPS, so it falls a little short of 9mm Luger performance, whereas 9mm Steyr slightly exceeds it.
My Chilean 1911 and Roth-Steyr. The Roth-Steyr is regimentally marked to the 10th Dragoons out of Krakow. The 9mm Steyr round is Geco, the 8mm Steyr is Fiocchi. 8mm Steyr shoots a 113 grain bullet just shy of 1100 FPS, so it falls a little short of 9mm Luger performance, whereas 9mm Steyr slightly exceeds it.
I guess I use the terms block letter and letter prefix interchangeably. What I am referring to is the letter that would come after the serial number (if yours has one). Most I have seen posted online, either for sale or for show, are in the "C" block. I haven't seen any others from the "B" block like mine. It would be an interesting experience to track most of them down and see just how many are left out of the 5000 made.
Got a 247*B in my sweaty hands right now.
Funny thing is the serial on the slide is one number less sequentially than the frame. I'm guessing someone had two sequentially numbered guns and mixed the slides up cleaning.
Funny thing is the serial on the slide is one number less sequentially than the frame. I'm guessing someone had two sequentially numbered guns and mixed the slides up cleaning.
Very cool. I'll post a fresh picture of my Steyr, she is 2**1B by the way.
wd113, that Steyr looks different from other ones I have seen. The slide doesn't seem to have the high polished blue ? The grips also look different too. Any background story on your example ?
wd113, that Steyr looks different from other ones I have seen. The slide doesn't seem to have the high polished blue ? The grips also look different too. Any background story on your example ?
3770 Group C lives here when she's not out looking for somebody to invade. Free food, you understand, and she has a nice American shoulder-holster to snooze in. Dated 1912 but MODEL 1911. I got her from Tom Bongalis about 1979 or 1980, when the first of these hit the market. Tom called me at work (I was in Newfoundland, he was in North Vancouver) because he remembered from years before that I wanted one of these. I started to tell him what I wanted and he interrupted me, saying, "I know: you don't care what it looks like but you want the best barrel I have. It's already picked out: here's the number!" THAT is SERVICE..... and Tom was a real Friend. Cal Nordman, at that time the Manitoba IPSC champ, tried out that gun on a plate course in 1982 and pronounced it "definitely competitive" in that difficult discipline. I think it is the only self-loader I have that I would stake my life on it's working and, yes, I DO have a US .45. This seems to me to be quite high for a Chilean serial number, but the gun is crested nicely, so there is no doubt.
Number 357 NO GROUP lives in Canada also; I have fired it. Model and Dated 1911, it is the earliest I have seen. Chileno crest.
Hope this helps.
Number 357 NO GROUP lives in Canada also; I have fired it. Model and Dated 1911, it is the earliest I have seen. Chileno crest.
Hope this helps.
357 is certainly the earliest I have seen too. I wonder if # 1 still exists somewhere ? Perhaps she is in the Chilean military museum.
I would love to see pictures of your example smellie. I will post some pictures of mine tomorrow.
Oh, I also couldn't resist and bought her one of the reproduction holsters, she is too pretty to be without one
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I would love to see pictures of your example smellie. I will post some pictures of mine tomorrow.
Oh, I also couldn't resist and bought her one of the reproduction holsters, she is too pretty to be without one
.I have 4###D which I purchased off the EE a few months ago. I would love to find some brass as well. The vendor told me that super comp brass would work so I bought some. The smallest quantity I could get was 1000. It doesn't work properly. The rim is just a bit too big. I am used to modifying brass for obsolete calibers but I don't look forward to working on these.
I like the gun very much. It is very nicely made. It came with a repro holster as well which is very nice. Some proper brass would be icing on the cake.
I found these in my searches if anyone needs: ht tp://vintagegungrips.net/ao-s27.html It would be nice to find some actual wood ones.
I like the gun very much. It is very nicely made. It came with a repro holster as well which is very nice. Some proper brass would be icing on the cake.
I found these in my searches if anyone needs: ht tp://vintagegungrips.net/ao-s27.html It would be nice to find some actual wood ones.
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not meaning to hijack the thread, but im very curious how you got the TT mag to fit the destroyer? I also have done a destroyer in 7.62 took lots of work to get the mag to fit
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starline makes brass for the 9x23 largo which is so so close. I would think it would work in the other. actually have some here
