A 6mm-ish carbine rifle?

Lojak

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Hi all,

I find myself repeatedly thinking of a 6mm-ish rifle of late, and I'm looking for opinions. Due to the shape of my safe, the one remaining spot will be able to handle a rifle of no more than 41" inches, and that's a very tight fit. So it needs to be "carbine" length, perhaps a 20" barrel?

The rifle will primarily be for range duty, no further than 200 yards, but I would be pleased as punch if I could use it for hunting at some point. Something in the 6mm range would be great. I do have a budget for the rifle though, $1k. (I've got a scope, rings etc).

Recommendations?

-- L
 
6mm, 20" barrel, 200yds max precision forum... got to suggest the 6PPC. What a gem

6BR is another but more case then you really need.

Shoot these two and many other cals will not seem so accurate anymore.

Jerry
 
You never mentioned what exactly you'll plan to be hunting in addition to target shooting, so I am lead to assume deer sized game.

You have some decent choices for your budge, with .243 Winchester right near the top.

I have a semi-custom Rem 700 in .243 Win. chambered for the short 55gr-65gr bullets, sporting a 22" Kreiger heavy barrel, resting in a bedded 700 LTR stock.. It's plenty accurate for what it is and not heavy enough to make a big deal about.
 
In terms of target shooting, well while I'd like to do 6PPC, I just don't have the funds for that this year. If I went that route, I'd probably buy a used one off the friendly Canadian benchrest folks. Right now, 6BR, .260 Rem and 6.5x55 have been catching my eye. Short or long action? I really can't say. I'm looking for a rifle that I can enjoy precision shooting within a few hundred yards at the range. If I can hunt with it, great, but its not a deal breaker, just preferred. Preferred in the sense that I won't have to sell a rifle to fit a dedicated hunting rig, or perhaps buy another safe for the price of a 6PPC. That sort of thing.

Again, the real problem is the $1k budget, which I can't extend (old car broken, must buy new one, sigh).

ETA: .243 does have some appeal, but I'd likely like to try something a tad different, hence the calibers above. And reloading my own ammo is fine, I've got the needed equipment, sans dies for whatever caliber.

-- L
 
Lojak said:
In terms of target shooting, well while I'd like to do 6PPC, I just don't have the funds for that this year. If I went that route, I'd probably buy a used one off the friendly Canadian benchrest folks. Right now, 6BR, .260 Rem and 6.5x55 have been catching my eye. Short or long action? I really can't say. I'm looking for a rifle that I can enjoy precision shooting within a few hundred yards at the range. If I can hunt with it, great, but its not a deal breaker, just preferred. Preferred in the sense that I won't have to sell a rifle to fit a dedicated hunting rig, or perhaps buy another safe for the price of a 6PPC. That sort of thing.

Again, the real problem is the $1k budget, which I can't extend (old car broken, must buy new one, sigh).

ETA: .243 does have some appeal, but I'd likely like to try something a tad different, hence the calibers above. And reloading my own ammo is fine, I've got the needed equipment, sans dies for whatever caliber.

-- L
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I don't think you're going to buy any kind of "benchrest" rifle for anwhere near $1,000. Even if you could, it would be so ill suited to your needs you could all but forget about using it for hunting.

Now, you're changing the original question by adding different cartridges into the mix. Are you open to a heavy barrelled rifle? You mentioned target shooting on a range so naturally, I'm guessing this is the way you'd like to go. You haven't indicated one way or another.

If 6.5mm cartridges are now a consideration, Tikka and Savage now offer 6.5mm chamberings with heavy barrels. Check them out. Of the caridges you mention, Tikka lists those as factory offerings.
 
Lojak said:
In terms of target shooting, well while I'd like to do 6PPC, I just don't have the funds for that this year. If I went that route, I'd probably buy a used one off the friendly Canadian benchrest folks. Right now, 6BR, .260 Rem and 6.5x55 have been catching my eye. Short or long action? I really can't say. I'm looking for a rifle that I can enjoy precision shooting within a few hundred yards at the range. If I can hunt with it, great, but its not a deal breaker, just preferred. Preferred in the sense that I won't have to sell a rifle to fit a dedicated hunting rig, or perhaps buy another safe for the price of a 6PPC. That sort of thing.

Again, the real problem is the $1k budget, which I can't extend (old car broken, must buy new one, sigh).

ETA: .243 does have some appeal, but I'd likely like to try something a tad different, hence the calibers above. And reloading my own ammo is fine, I've got the needed equipment, sans dies for whatever caliber.

-- L
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my friend the new savage lightweight hunter comes in 260 and weighs 5.5lbs
 
The Rem788 in 243 or 6BR. The action is very heavy and stiff, with just a small opening for loading port and mag. very fast lock time. A medium weight quality barrel of, say, 20" to 22" and you would have a very accurate carbine. It would need a new stock. the original is a bit of a hockey stick.

I have two Fclass rifles built on those actions in 308. They do well.
 
Lojak said:
In terms of target shooting, well while I'd like to do 6PPC, I just don't have the funds for that this year. If I went that route, I'd probably buy a used one off the friendly Canadian benchrest folks. Right now, 6BR, .260 Rem and 6.5x55 have been catching my eye. Short or long action? I really can't say. I'm looking for a rifle that I can enjoy precision shooting within a few hundred yards at the range. If I can hunt with it, great, but its not a deal breaker, just preferred. Preferred in the sense that I won't have to sell a rifle to fit a dedicated hunting rig, or perhaps buy another safe for the price of a 6PPC. That sort of thing.

Again, the real problem is the $1k budget, which I can't extend (old car broken, must buy new one, sigh).

ETA: .243 does have some appeal, but I'd likely like to try something a tad different, hence the calibers above. And reloading my own ammo is fine, I've got the needed equipment, sans dies for whatever caliber.

-- L
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Why not rebarrel a Savage or Stevens to the bench shooting chambering of your choice, leaving the orig barrel for hunting.

You can easily start with a 243 Savage, spin on a barrel for pure paper punching and swap out parts as needed. If you are handy, you can make your own stock or you can pick up a Boyds for less then $100 and finish it yourself.

No reason why you can't fit a rifle into your needs for 1K

Of course, buying a factory rifle with a 'precision' chambering is easy but factory rifles are expensive relative to their accuracy.

If precision is 1/2 to 3/4 min at 200yds, by all means, there is a long list of viable factory rifles. If it means better, you have to start looking at better BARRELS.

YMMV

Jerry
 
I suggest a Savage 10 with a 20" 6BR barrel. It would be accurate enough to be really fun at the range, and you would have two barrels (the orig factory plus the one you spin on yourself). As long as you get a short action with a .308 bolt face, you could now have two rifles in one so to speak. Hunting in the fall? Spin on your .308 and you're ready for deer/moose/bear. Target shooting over winter? Spin back on the 6BR and you're good to go.

If a Savage is $400, another $400 for the barrel, and you've got $200 for trigger and a nice boyd's stock, all in the $1k budget.

Edit: This assumes you are reloading. If not reloading I'd go .243 for a 6mm cartridge.
 
If you can wait for one to come your way, I have had two Rem 600's in 6mm that I really like, one of which I still own. Both put 85 grain Nosler Partitions into sub moa at 3200fps with RL 19. The carbine itself is just over 37" long and weighs well under 6 pounds. Very sweet rig with some retro cool.
 
I would love a 6x45 (6mm on a .223 case) in a Rem Mod 7/ Sav mod 10 type of rifle with a heavy 22" barrel. Used extensively on plains game by the meat guys in Africa. Reckon this could be done for $1000.00.
 
cath8r said:
I would love a 6x45 (6mm on a .223 case) in a Rem Mod 7/ Sav mod 10 type of rifle with a heavy 22" barrel. Used extensively on plains game by the meat guys in Africa. Reckon this could be done for $1000.00.
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easily done for less than a g note. stevens 200 -stock barrel - stock + shilen pre fit + choate stock
 
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