A couple questions about Moss. 930...

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I am looking at a new shotgun and was leaning toward an 870 because this model has all the features I want.

But then I'm thinking, for the money, I could move up to a semi for a little more $$...

I've been reading about the magazine extensions S&J sells for the Mossy 930, but I'm wondering what's the point of that? The cap is limited to 5 rounds, regardless... So why get a mag extension? Is it just for looks? Do you just put a dowel in to reduce cap back down to 5 once the extension is on?

Or, does the gun become restricted once the extension is on?

Please educate me....
 
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why do you think a Mossberg semi is an upgrade over an 870? :)
i wouldnt trade any of my 870s for a 930.

and yes, people put the mag extensions on the semis just for looks. its worth it to them to have a bulkier, heavier shotgun for looks alone - despite the fact that everyone knows the extended mag is 'fake'. its like the guys that put fake silencers on their rifles and wear ghillie suits to the range. IMO its silly, but if it makes them happy and its not harming me, who am i to say anything? to each his own.
 
I was just reading this thread. It was saying that the law states that the cap limit is based on the largest shell the shotgun takes, thus a +1 is legal, since with it you'll be at 5+1 3" shells, which results in 6+1 2.75" shells. I like that, very much.

Would it be possible to get a +2, and just plug it down to 6+1 2.75" for "looks"?

Also, I have an HP-9, which is pretty much an 870 (no I don't want to get into that Chicom argument here)...

I'm just saying, a semi 930 would be cool. So I was wondering about those extensions, and the law surrounding it.
 
which law are you referring to?

the law as interpreted by CGN forum members
the law as interpreted by courts/court precedents
or the law as interpreted by an LEO on the scene?

because each can be wildly different. personally just for 'looks' i wouldnt add a mag extension to a semi. if for some reason i did, it wouldnt just be blocked with a dowel but rather would more than comply with mag capacity regulations and be something more permanent involving rivets/solder/metal/etc -- ie: blocked in such a way that it wouldnt need to be simply unscrewed and have a dowel dumped out to unblock it. but thats just me, again everyone can choose to interpret our muddled storage and firearms laws in their own way - and find their own balance between CYA and convenience.

personally i think blocking a mag extension on a semi with a simple loose dowel would be nearly as bad as putting 15 snap caps in a 20 round mag and calling it 'blocked'.
 
The 930 is a huge upgrade over todays Rem 870's!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly the 870'2 in the last few years are some of the biggest piles of s**t out there, and you would be much better off with a Norinco HP9 with the 14 inch barrel if you are going for a shorty!

If you are going for the tactical thing then I would say that the 930 is a perfect fit, and it actually won the NRA gun of the year a few years back I believe.

I have a 930 with the bird/deer barrels, and it has run flawlessly with light bird loads, and aside from some slightly out of spec slugs not feeding right it has been great all around.

For the price of the 930 it is hard to imagine ever going back to a pump, especially during goose season! LOL

Like I said before though, if you are looking for a short barrelled cheap shotgun go with a Norinco HP9. Solid as a rock, almost perfect copy of a Rem 870, but with a 14 inch barrel.
 
I have a 14" HP9 which I would also lay my life on.

The 930 would be really just a fun gun, maybe a little hunting, but primarily blowing the #### out of stuff for kicks. I've never had a semi shotgun, but I hear they are quite nice.

Do they take chokes?
 
The 930 has a 4rd mag +1 in the spout,for 5 rd total, the law is 5rd mag cap with auto-loaders,using the longest round it's chambered for, which is 3", so you get a +1 ext so you can load 5 [2 3/4" rounds] in the mag and it will be a tight fit with some makes of ammo or slugs

Or you get a +2 mag ext so you can load 5 [2 3/4"] easy,if you're smart.

And if you learn to ghost load you can have 5 in the mag, 1 in the spout and 1 on the lifter for a total of 7rds.
 
Greenhorse six said:
The 930 has a 4rd mag +1 in the spout,for 5 rd total, the law is 5rd mag cap with auto-loaders,using the longest round it's chambered for, which is 3", so you get a +1 ext so you can load 5 [2 3/4" rounds] in the mag and it will be a tight fit with some makes of ammo or slugs

Or you get a +2 mag ext so you can load 5 [2 3/4"] easy,if you're smart.

And if you learn to ghost load you can have 5 in the mag, 1 in the spout and 1 on the lifter for a total of 7rds.
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so does it mean that on 935 you can get LEGALLY 5 round mag for 3 1/2" shells which would potentially translate to 7 2 3/4" shells (I know that 2 3/4" are not recommended for 935 - just asking...)?
 
popper said:
so does it mean that on 935 you can get LEGALLY 5 round mag for 3 1/2" shells which would potentially translate to 7 2 3/4" shells (I know that 2 3/4" are not recommended for 935 - just asking...)?
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You might get 6 ,but it's too short for 7 by 1/2", that's just the math, It' be like trying to shoot 22shorts out of a .22long rifle semi auto,not smart.

You'd have to use some pretty hot 2 3/4"shells to run it,if it would run and that doesn't sound like fun to me,even with a gas system soaking up some of the recoil.
 
No to the 870 Expres. Yes to the 870p, sure, but it's over $1000 after tax and then add a few modifications? Ouch. I don't have the Dept.'s budget in my back pocket and besides, 870s have problems too.

The 930 however is an excellent platform as well, and reliable AND at almost 1/2 the price of a 870p: I too would trust my life to my 930. I bought it the Home Security from Milarm. I have fed mine everything, everything. No problems ever. Not once. Well over 1000 rounds now.

Let's face reality: semi-autos are faster and more accurate than any pump and arguably just as realiable. Yes, I am sure you can control your muzzle flip after every 3" magnum slug AND schickt-schickt yourself back on target very quickly after every shot, but all I have to do is aim, press my finely tuned trigger and control my muzzle while you're still flailing in the wind desperately for your next POA! LMAO. I couldn't help that last line.

Seriously though, I think you'll do well with both, but the advantages lies with the semi-automatic shotguns, the Mossberg 930 in particular.

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I have both the 590A1 SPX and a 930 SPX and honestly, I'll reach for the 930 come shooting time.

Don't get me wrong, I've thought about selling the 590, but it's broken in so nicely I can't bring myself to sell it. Very smooth now since I bought it.

Here's the thing, the 930 is lighter and makes it feel smaller than it actually is, the trigger pull is much more crisp and light, I find it way faster to stay on target, and overall there seems to be a bit less felt recoil than the 590 due to the gas system.

The 930 uses a forged aluminum receiver, but the 590 has the thick walled barrel, which probably accounts for it's weight.

I love my 590, but I really ~love~ my 930 that much more. Makes me look like a superhero :)

To answer the OP's question: yep, you can buy the S&J extenstion, just be sure to block it off somehow so it is limited to 5x 3" shells. If you can fit 6 2 3/4" shells, that is ok. Might I also recommend the safety and bolt handle as well, they are reasonably priced and make the shotgun handle MUCH better.

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My "incorrectly installed" sling loop :) the mag tube clamp is also from S&J as well!.
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Same design sure, but it's like 870 Express vs. Police.
While still a functional and decent shotgun, the 500/Maverick 88 is one of the cheapest options available.
 
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Same design sure, but it's like 870 Express vs. Police.
While still a functional and decent shotgun, the 500/Maverick 88 is one of the cheapest options available.
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The Maverick 88, not the 500 is Mossbergs low end model ,like the 870 Express is Remingtons.

The Maverick88s have the safety on the trigger guard,which is plastic and I believe they pin the action bars right to the plastic forend.

The 590a1s, [590a1 not 590] are built to take more abuse, if that's what you meant, heavier barrel ,metal trigger group ,and metal safety.

I've 2 590's, one ,I've had since 1992 is marked on the receiver 500a1,there is no difference between it and the 590 marked one or a 500 with standoff barrel [which has a 590 mag cap and not the 500 mag screw.] that sits beside them in the safe they share with a 930, their all the same quality ,Good.

So while the 500's are less expensive ,the Maverick 88's are cheap.
 
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