A good first blackpowder Flinter?

[Musketfire]

Same!



Same - I am not completely obsessed with historical accuracy, I'm rather looking for something fun to shoot that looks good. Hence why I'm quite open for any number of different rifles, as long as they're fun. I'll have to wait until the local range has a blackpowder day and go visit then I suppose



What did the Jaeger kit cost you, if you don't mind me asking? (I don't know what it is about them, but they look amazing!)

I've kept note of loyalist for a long time, mainly because they have the easiest to navigate site.

How do you find handling flinters in the wet? (I live in a rainforest after all)



I suppose I should have asked - would people suggest that a cap lock be used before a flinter? I asked about flintlock rifles because of the dual facts of "I like them way more", and they aren't firearms.... Those T/C Hawkens look pretty good, and don't seem like they'll bury me if I decide it's not for me and want to sell. From what I've read, startup costs are another $100 after buying the rifle.

The Jager kit is costing me a nearly double the listing price as I am getting a whole bunch of upgrades, I wanted a rifled large bore so I requested a swamped rifled 62 cal barell, upgraded hand cast steel furniture, davis early germanic lock etc...I am going to build it into a representation of a Hungarian/Germanic arm

After its all done and delivered it will cost me around 850$$ then the fun of assembly and finishing comes into play.

Still cheaper then a italian gun but with parts that are far far superior.

I had to pay 1/2 upfront and then the remainder when its done "hopefully within the next 2 months.

Now as far as handeling flinters in the wet goes, It all depends on the user" and what kind of wet",
Using myself as a example,
If I take my time and care in loading all seems to be great "big military lock" but the moment I start rushing trying to go all speed demon ....of course theres more possibility for the evils of wet getting to the pan.

I find if you watch what your doing, wipe the pan ,flint and frizzen then I find problems become rare.

But if its a torrential down pour I would suggest loading where its dry and cover your lock with a cows knee....And bring a bayonet

Cheers

 

[H Wally]

Same - I am not completely obsessed with historical accuracy, I'm rather looking for something fun to shoot that looks good. Hence why I'm quite open for any number of different rifles, as long as they're fun. I'll have to wait until the local range has a blackpowder day and go visit then I suppose

Malahat Marauders are having a Rendezvous this weekend, best to go Sat or Sun though, only shotgun on Mon.

BTW there is Lyman for sale at ww.muzzleloadingforum.com, $400 nib

This weekend at the Malahat range? I'm going to be in Victoria on sunday looking for houses... I may have to drop by!! Also, I'll head on over to muzzleloadingforum - I'm betting it has a fair amount of info that I'll otherwise be asking here.

The Jager kit is costing me a nearly double the listing price as I am getting a whole bunch of upgrades, I wanted a rifled large bore so I requested a swamped rifled 62 cal barell, upgraded hand cast steel furniture, davis early germanic lock etc...I am going to build it into a representation of a Hungarian/Germanic arm

After its all done and delivered it will cost me around 850$$ then the fun of assembly and finishing comes into play.

Still cheaper then a italian gun but with parts that are far far superior.

I had to pay 1/2 upfront and then the remainder when its done "hopefully within the next 2 months.

Now as far as handeling flinters in the wet goes, It all depends on the user" and what kind of wet",
Using myself as a example,
If I take my time and care in loading all seems to be great "big military lock" but the moment I start rushing trying to go all speed demon ....of course theres more possibility for the evils of wet getting to the pan.

I find if you watch what your doing, wipe the pan ,flint and frizzen then I find problems become rare.

But if its a torrential down pour I would suggest loading where its dry and cover your lock with a cows knee....And bring a bayonet

Cheers

So the Jager kit could be had for $500, roughly? I haven't really seen any anywhere that listed them under $1000 for a kit or built...

Also, I've talked to a few of you on and off about various blackpowder pistols and rifles, but in the event I'm looking at one, what are some things to look for? I've been reading several old thick books including "The blackpowder Handgun" and "The Blackpowder Rifle", but they don't really describe what kind of things to look for when purchasing a new or used blackpowder gun.

 

[al100]

I love my LYMAN Great plains

 

[Musketfire]

This weekend at the Malahat range? I'm going to be in Victoria on sunday looking for houses... I may have to drop by!! Also, I'll head on over to muzzleloadingforum - I'm betting it has a fair amount of info that I'll otherwise be asking here.



So the Jager kit could be had for $500, roughly? I haven't really seen any anywhere that listed them under $1000 for a kit or built...

Also, I've talked to a few of you on and off about various blackpowder pistols and rifles, but in the event I'm looking at one, what are some things to look for? I've been reading several old thick books including "The blackpowder Handgun" and "The Blackpowder Rifle", but they don't really describe what kind of things to look for when purchasing a new or used blackpowder gun.

Yes the jager kit at "ww.sittingfoxmuzzleloaders.co" in its most basic is 495$$
And is the type of kit that will take alot of work, but thats the whole point in my opinion.
They will also do whatever jobs on the rifle you are not comfortable with "myself as example I am getting the sights and underlugs installed"

Check out the sittingfox site they have some really nice kits offered.

Now a few things to look for in a used flinter "my opinion" check the bore and the lock function those 2 are really important in my mind.

Then if both of those check out look at secondary things such as stock condition, condition and quality of furniture, hows the inletting etc.

Cheers

 

[juanvaldez]

I've got several quality flinters for sale in the EE if you are interested PM me.

Here is my .62 Jaegar (not for sale...yet!!)

 

[DEZ]

Lyman great plains all the way make sure you get one with the slow twist rate 1-60 for patched round ball. they are now making some with a faster twist for shooting sabots Yuck!

 

[snowshoe]

There is nothing wrong with the Lyman rifles. I have heard from lots that have the Great Planes rifles and love them. I have a percussion Trade rifle in .54, and used to have a Deerstalker in .50, again in percussion. They are very good rifles for the money, and again I have heard from lots of Lyman flint owners that really like their rifles. I used to have a A&H Mountain rifle in flint, and although it was a good rifle, and veryyyyy nice looking, I like the Lyman's better.

 

[H Wally]

Well - thank you everyone for your advice and help - a special few of you cgn'ers went over and above to show me around at malahat a few weeks ago, and host me later on - outcome of all this; I got a .50 Browning cap and ball mountain rifle!

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone, and I'll put up a pic for everyone tomorrow!