A little bit of Lan and Little bit of Sea from the last two days...

There is a large difference in suggesting it is a grebe and it may be a grebe.....
And thus there be an infraction of game laws (Federal Migratory Game Bird Laws no less)
So maybe best to say nothing and let the pictures speak for themselves????

hardtail, again Thanks for sharing your pictures and Sea Duck stew sounds interesting.
Lots of spuds and onions and carrots???
Rob
 
Halftail said:
Might look like a grebe to someone that don't know I suppose.
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Why did you choose to randomly post pictures of your successful hunt anyway? Im not judging you for it at all, in fact I like reading and seeing other fellow hunters success stories because everyone can learn from other peoples experiences.....not to mention I do it myself. I just hope you didn't post for the simple fact that you enjoy other people patting you on the back to make you feel good about what you've done. Or worse off, to brag or gloat about what you've killed. Thats incredibly lame and shows no respect for the animals you've taken. The way I look at it, if you elect to post pictures of animals you've killed, you should be prepared to hear the good, the bad and the indifferent. But most importantly, you should be not only able and willing to hear everything that is said about your post, but also provide an educated response to any type of comment..good, bad or indifferent.

If I was in your shoes, I would have elected to respond in a different manner...maybe a little like this....thank you for your comment. While I agree, that do to the quality of my photo, that the bird you questioned certainly does resemble a grebe like you eluded to (and like the ones in the photos you posted). However, I can assure you that the bird is in fact an immature scoter. While the characteristics you mentioned do appear to be visible in the photo, the bird does in fact have........by now you should get the point.

Im not here to start an argument. I simply made a comment to something I observed and to aid you in the event my observation was correct.

Happy hunting and continued success.
 
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FLHTCUI said:
There is a large difference in suggesting it is a grebe and it may be a grebe.....
And thus there be an infraction of game laws (Federal Migratory Game Bird Laws no less)
Rob
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Agreed Rob....which is why my intial post reads..."what apears to look like a grebe..." The post was intended to be helpful in the event that it was a grebe.
 
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Halftail said:
How many sea ducks have you experienced in Ontario just curious?
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Not many! Wouldnt be my first choice to shoot either even if they did fly my way. Although years ago, an old hunting partner did shoot a bird that I hadn't ever seen before. It looked like a penguin that apparently could fly. I wouldnt have believed it unless i saw it with my own two eyes...turned out to be a murre. Go figure it was in southern Ontario. And no, I didnt know what it was nor did I know they existed. You learn something new everyday! This is what it was...
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I have a mounted Surf Scoter on my wall that was shot by me in North West Ontario about 20 years ago. It was in a small flock of Blue Bills. Local birder advised that sometimes weather mixes them up and they end up inland away from the Great Lakes and the Oceans. That's how I recognized the bird in the photo as a Scoter as I have a full sized one to look at and compare. Funny how they get around. Do you skin them and take off the fat or just boil it off and drain?

Darryl
 
Very clearly a young female black scoter in my eyes. I've never seen, or hunted one to be clear, just had time to kill and Internet expert it a bit. Look at the female black scoter pic, exact same head coloration and body. It also quite clearly appears to be a short bill not a beak, see the nasal hole for one. That was a fun excercise over coffee.

http://artusobirds.########.ca/2012_08_01_archive.html?m=1
 
Ardent said:
Very clearly a young female black scoter in my eyes. I've never seen, or hunted one to be clear, just had time to kill and Internet expert it a bit. Look at the female black scoter pic, exact same head coloration and body. It also quite clearly appears to be a short bill not a beak, see the nasal hole for one. That was a fun excercise over coffee.

http://artusobirds.########.ca/2012_08_01_archive.html?m=1
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Haha..Im viewing pictures from a phone, so I cant see a nasal hole. From my view, looked like a small beak with a shadow
 
madtrapper143 said:
I have a mounted Surf Scoter on my wall that was shot by me in North West Ontario about 20 years ago. It was in a small flock of Blue Bills. Local birder advised that sometimes weather mixes them up and they end up inland away from the Great Lakes and the Oceans. That's how I recognized the bird in the photo as a Scoter as I have a full sized one to look at and compare. Funny how they get around. Do you skin them and take off the fat or just boil it off and drain?

Darryl
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Sometimes I skin then and brown em in the pot before boiling and cooking for the stew.With the skin gone theyre actually quite lean.I do pluck and clean the fatter bird and roast em like a goose.we was brought up on this kinda food and maybe it's an acquired taste.I haven't met anyone that didn't like a stew made from sea ducks.I know a fella that lives and works in Northern Alberta and he's killed white winged Scoter that came with other kinds of ducks in lakes up there.
 
Had a feed of Turrs when vacationing in Twillinggate Newfoundland a few years ago. Somewhat stronger taste but still delicious. The Cabot Tower Rum made it even better. They were boiled then roasted served with duff and gravy. Got to go back.

Darryl
 
madtrapper143 said:
Had a feed of Turrs when vacationing in Twillinggate Newfoundland a few years ago. Somewhat stronger taste but still delicious. The Cabot Tower Rum made it even better. They were boiled then roasted served with duff and gravy. Got to go back.

Darryl
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I always wanted to try Turrs.I would think they was almost near to a sea duck.
 
Never tried making stew, maybe something to try. We see a lot of the divers like goldeneyes, buffleheads and bluebills, but the only ones I dont mind the taste of is buffleheads. Everytime I venture off plan and shoot the goldeneyes or bluebills, Im always disappointed with the fishy smell and taste. Where I hunt, the divers fill their belly with zebra mussles, which i guess would explain the smell. Although diver hunting makes for some awesome hunts, I cant justify shooting birds i dont take pleasure in eating. I'll have to give the stew a try and see if that changes my thoughts on divers.
 
1963beretta said:
Never tried making stew, maybe something to try. We see a lot of the divers like goldeneyes, buffleheads and bluebills, but the only ones I dont mind the taste of is buffleheads. Everytime I venture off plan and shoot the goldeneyes or bluebills, Im always disappointed with the fishy smell and taste. Where I hunt, the divers fill their belly with zebra mussles, which i guess would explain the smell. Although diver hunting makes for some awesome hunts, I cant justify shooting birds i dont take pleasure in eating. I'll have to give the stew a try and see if that changes my thoughts on divers.
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Might be just an acquired taste perhaps.The only diver I find too fishy id the merganser.we don't get many goldeneye or Bluebills here anymore during open season.Don't get cold enough anymore in late December and early January.
 
I no longer consider a merganser part of the duck species. Its an abomination of a bird! But merganser are always plentiful on the lake. I myself have seen a big decline in bluebill and goldeneye numbers where i hunt. It was not long ago when by mid October, groups of 200-500 bluebills would storm through the decoys. Now, you'd be lucky to see a couple hundred birds in an entire season! As for goldeneyes, once a regular visitor into my bufflehead decoy spread, now I have not seen one in 2 years. It was only about 4-5 years ago that you could easily limit out on goldeneyes on every outing. Bufflehead numbers seem to still be strong and continue to be some of the wildest wingshooting extravaganza's that I lose sleep over!
 
1963beretta said:
I no longer consider a merganser part of the duck species. Its an abomination of a bird! But merganser are always plentiful on the lake. I myself have seen a big decline in bluebill and goldeneye numbers where i hunt. It was not long ago when by mid October, groups of 200-500 bluebills would storm through the decoys. Now, you'd be lucky to see a couple hundred birds in an entire season! As for goldeneyes, once a regular visitor into my bufflehead decoy spread, now I have not seen one in 2 years. It was only about 4-5 years ago that you could easily limit out on goldeneyes on every outing. Bufflehead numbers seem to still be strong and continue to be some of the wildest wingshooting extravaganza's that I lose sleep over!
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Buffleheads are reasonably plenty here during the early season.
 
Tried Turr last year...might have been the way it was cooked or the fact it was reheated but let's just say I didn't have seconds. That being said I'm a firm believer that if you don't like something it may have just been the way it was cooked.
I dream of the day I'll get to go after scoters n eiders.
 
swinginberrys said:
Tried Turr last year...might have been the way it was cooked or the fact it was reheated but let's just say I didn't have seconds. That being said I'm a firm believer that if you don't like something it may have just been the way it was cooked.
I dream of the day I'll get to go after scoters n eiders.
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Where is Mallorytown Swinginberrys?
 
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