First thing I was taught: Trust noone
By the way, the OP is legally in the clear as he wasn't selling reloads without a licence.. As for the seller, for all we know he could be licensed.
A little reminder about purchasing "non-factory" loaded ammo at a gun show!
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First thing I was taught: Trust noone
By the way, the OP is legally in the clear as he wasn't selling reloads without a licence.. As for the seller, for all we know he could be licensed.
When I say "in writing" I mean they are being sold as components only even though they are loaded.
I know you cannot sell reloaded ammo and that's my point, the guy who sold this reloaded ammo should have taken them apart then sold them.
First thing I was taught: Trust noone
By the way, the OP is legally in the clear as he wasn't selling reloads without a licence.. As for the seller, for all we know he could be licensed.
Agree on line one but cannot get my head around the second part.
It is OK to buy illegal goods???? been years since I asked but pretty sure the answer didnot change
If he is licenced he would be on the approved list and that would be fine as long as he is selling what he is approved to make
They would find enough in the explosives act to wack the buyer as they see fit probally here but I am no lawyer. Off the top of my head under the Regulations, “ammunition” is defined as a Class 6 explosive and reloads would be for sure seen as unsafe unless licenced seller :
Thus
Prohibiting the sale, purchase, possession or use of any explosive that, in the opinion of the Minister, is intrinsically unsafe, and identifying that explosive by reference to its common name or a description of the class of explosives to which it belongs;
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Yes he should have I agree but if they are on the table in one piece then they are not components. First thing I would ask if a judge is why a letter at all that is not required for selling components.See where I am coming from. I guess what gets me is why gun shows openly allow it. Could give us all a real black eye and a pile of problems which we don't need . But to each their own if they like to play .
The possible libality as a seller and risk as a buyer around it is enough for me to stay clear since I like my fingers and barrels. Guess I just never needed brass that bad
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On my .308, pretty much any "fun" load is a compressed charge. Unless pistol powder was used...
I had a similar experience about 27 years ago. At the time I didn't reload and didn't happen to really want to learn to do it. A had a buddy who reloaded .30-06 for me, for a price, I was happy. Unfortunately I was not really happy with my really large group size, then I noticed I was shooting 3 different styles of .308 bullets. I had another friend pull half a dozen bullets and he discovered 3 different weights of propellant.
Within a month I bought an RCBS basic kit and I found the time to make my own ammo.
Within a month I bought an RCBS basic kit and I found the time to make my own ammo.
I bought some 'commercial reloads' in 9mm Luger at an Edmonton gun show. Fired in my old Glock the primers weren't just FLAT but were mushroom shaped from expanding out against the breech face. There was almost no visible separation between the edge of the primer and the brass. I had, and still have, never seen that in a pistol cartridge, even hot +P loads.
You're a braver man than me.
I've just seen too many crappy reloads and too many careless reloaders to risk it.You're a braver man than me.
I'd only do it for the brass. By the way there's no indication that the guy at the show wasn't licensed.. There are lots of licensed hacks out there in many lines of work.
Don't agree. Nothing other than an approved list as supplied by a site sponsor to this site. Might have changed a little bit since 2011 but the complete copy is on the NRCAN site to 2013 just too lazy right now to check it.I would bet the farm the show guy was not and one quick phone call to them would confirm that.
As of Feb 5th/2011 Approved Reloading Companys on NRCAN:
--Beckett Colonial Industrys--London, Ontario
--Canadian BDX--Black Diamond, Alberta
--Centrex--Saint-Raymond, Quebec
--CTVSP Club de Tir Ville St. Pierre--Lachine, Quebec
--Custom Bullets+Ammunition--Cambridge, Ontario
--Custom Reloading Service Inc.--Maple Ridge, British Columbia
--Les Industries Centaure Itee--Lavel Quebec
--The Bullet Shop--Rainier, Alberta
--VIP Firearms--Winnipeg, Manitoba
--Wolf Bullets 1011653 Ontario Ltd.--Kingston, Ontario
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I stand corrected.. My apologies and thanks go out to you gents.
I find it rather ironic and amusing that most gun owners are of the vein of 'live and let live', against big government with the registry and stores taking ID for powder and primer sales, ammo sales and the like, but as a firearms owner - people having gone through the courses, you'd think those same gun owners would have critical thinking in determining whether ammunition is safe or not - be it re-loads, factory fresh or military surplus.
All you guys beating the drum to weed out people selling their hand-loads at shows -careful for what you wish for.
The legislation that controls ammunition could just as easily be tweaked making the purchase, re-sale and even possession of any ammunition illegal without the proper permits.
Papers? Your papers please?
All you guys beating the drum to weed out people selling their hand-loads at shows -careful for what you wish for.
The legislation that controls ammunition could just as easily be tweaked making the purchase, re-sale and even possession of any ammunition illegal without the proper permits.
Papers? Your papers please?
And that is exactly why unregulated and untested reloads must be illegal to sell and are. All it is going to take is one event where someone gets seriously hurt, takes the unapproved seller to court and makes the news and if we are lucky more controls like you talk about will be rammed up our ass like everything else was or my greatest fear we will lose the ability to reload period.
Would you buy another persons medication to save a few pennies because the bottle has the right label on it. Buying unapproved reloads is no different. God knows what is really in the case.
Sorry but this is an area where it is time to nail a few illegal sellers to the cross before we all lose the ability to reload at home.
There is nothing amusing about this subject just plain ignorant individuals that have no real clue what chances they are taking but it will effect us all eventually if not stopped. I don't find jamiejef's pic very funny and just pray he was not hurt.
I also find most didnot even reload the ammo they are selling off themselves. They picked it up buying someone out as part of a bulk purchase, or their dad who dies did it etc but are telling you what care was taken and what is in it. Ya right.
Not sure what you mean in your last paragraph on papers?? since a PAL or POL is your ammo papers currently is it not??
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People regularily jokingly say "Vere iss your papers!" referring to how we are heading towards being controlled "nazi" like. Sad thing is, we have been being asked for our "papers" now for a long time, for just about everything, luckily we don't have to produce documentation at provincial borders yet....
