A lot of bad .22 LR?

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I've fired about 1000 rounds of a variety of brands over the last 2 week and had a bunch of bad ones, *a lot* of them have been dinged and dented, some have had miss-cast bullets (Remington I'm looking at you) and some that go off but sound weak and obviously have no sonic boom and never hit the target.

Malformed brass has been the biggest problem across brands, I've bought about 10 brands from 2 stores and they all seem to be crummy except for the CCI Standard Velocity, the Remington ammo has been horrible.

Is this normal?
 
I use the cheapo american eagle hollowpoints, in 4 bricks so far, I've had one miscast bullet. Every single other one went through the 10/22, with only the occasional hiccup, that was more likely due to the hotlips magzine.
Of course, I don't use any remington, so that's maybe got something to do with it.
 
The remington ammo I purchased was so awful, i bet about 20% were duds and bullets fell out of the brass even while still in the original box. It was cheap at the time so I got 4 bricks. I will not repeat that purchase anymore. Winchester dynapoints ...not ftf at all.
 
My last brick of power points had lots of miscast's in it. Probably two in every box. Kind of disheartening but just have to pay attention when loading thats all.
 
Ditto on the winchester dynapoints. I just shot off 2 bricks this week and I had a total of 5 FTF (fail to fire) in 1000 rounds. I put them back in the mag and 4 of the 5 shot with no problems. So really only 1 Fail to fire out of 1000. and that was for the economy boxes with 500 loose rounds in it.
 
I gave up on bulk packs from Winchester and Remington over five years ago. I get my cheap .22 ammo from Federal now. You still get about 3-4 misfires per box of 500, but no detachable bullets or malformed brass.
 
I'd really liking the American Eagle 38gr 40 per box. They are packaged properly to protect the lead. I get a lot more wild ones in the Federal bulk pack where they are all dumped in a cardboard box loose.
 
Yeah I don't think I'll be buying much remington ammo in any caliber if that's how little respect they have for my money.

I found the Winchester stuff to be ok but my gun just doesn't like.
 
FiveBillionAcres said:
I've fired about 1000 rounds of a variety of brands over the last 2 week and had a bunch of bad ones, *a lot* of them have been dinged and dented, some have had miss-cast bullets (Remington I'm looking at you) and some that go off but sound weak and obviously have no sonic boom and never hit the target.

Malformed brass has been the biggest problem across brands, I've bought about 10 brands from 2 stores and they all seem to be crummy except for the CCI Standard Velocity, the Remington ammo has been horrible.

Is this normal?
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What firearm are you using?
 
The worst ammo I have ever used for .22LR is winchester white box hollowpoints 500 pack.
There have been MANY that sound like a pop instead of a bang, and I literally have no idea if the bullet has left the barrel. Every time it has, but many misfires and suspected squib loads.
I'll never buy a box of that crapola again.

Just a FYI contribution to a thread discussing bad ammo
 
Ok let me get this straight. You buy the cheapest ammo you can get your hands on and ##### that you are getting a few misfires and crappy miscast bullets. Yet not one person has #####ed about lousy accuracy. I guess if MOP (minute of popcan) and it goes bang everytime you pull the trigger makes you happy, keep buying the cheap crap.
The difference between the cheap stuff and the higher end .22 ammo is all in quality control. Try some Eley EPS and see how many are miscast or misfire. Then again I doubt at $150 a brick you will be blazing through an couple bricks a day.
 
I had the same experience with Dynapoints. Only ever bought one box because I had heard so much about them. Found them to be dirty and unreliable. Several cartriges were kinked to the point that I didn't even try to put them in my rifle, lots of loose lead, and more squibs than I bothered to count. Only had one or two misfires, but honestly I'd rather have that than one that goes puff and doesn't hit the paper. It sucks having to take the bolt out to see if theres still a piece of lead in your barrel.

I mainly stick to Federal now. I'll buy the Champion lead round nose (load # 510) for my target bullets at 15.99/brick or the 40/box american eagle hollow points. I even find the federal bulk packs far superior to dynapoints. My CZ seems to like mini-mags maybe just a little better... but not consistantly enough for me to justify roughly double the price.

Never tried any of the super expensive stuff... I shoot rimfire for cheap fun.
 
maynard said:
I guess if MOP (minute of popcan) and it goes bang everytime you pull the trigger makes you happy, keep buying the cheap crap.
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Coincidentally enough, I use my .22s for shooting popcans every chance I get.

You match your resources to the performance level you require. Anything else is uneconomic and a waste of said resources. At least, that's what they taught at MY engineering school.

I will keep buying "the cheap crap".
 
My 10/22 doesn't warrant $150/brick ammo the gun isn't that good.

The cheapest ammo I can get wasn't the worst either so your ammo-snobbery doesn't really apply.
 
Goes "BANG," great. I can afford a lot of it, even better! My 10/22 was purchased mainly to fill the time while my 300WM cools between shots. If it has the accuracy to bust up a milk jug at 100 yards, I'm pretty damn happy, and the cheap American Eagle does that very well.
 
Cheap .22 Ammo

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Last year the CO-OP in Redvers, Sask., had Federal Champion HP 525 round bulk packs on for $11.95. I cleaned out all they had, 14 boxes. I bought another case this year, but paid $14.95 a pack for them, or about $150 a case. I use Savage Mark IIs for shooting Prairie Dogs, and I have not had any misfires for failures to fire with the Federals. Accuracy in the BV and BTVS is Minute of Prairie Dog out to about 125 yards and regular hits out farther.

When I ran out of Federals this spring, I dug into the ammo chest and found two bulk packs of Winchester Dynapoints. I ran through them, and had ONE misfire, but it fired the second time.

My Mark IIs have been modified, with a lot of weight removed from the gas shield on the end of the firing pin assembly, so while there is less weight on the firing pin, which MAY cause a lighter firing pin hit, I believe there is faster ignition. I also use an old Remington 513-S sporter, and have had no problems with FTF with it.

I have also used American Eagle, but with 40 to a box instead of 50, and living in a Prairie Dog target rich environment, it is more economical to use the Federals or Winchesters.

My hunting partner used Winchesters in a Ruger 10-22 and has had no FTF with them, but he has changed over to Federals for the slightly higher velocity, and the Winchester Dynapoints sometimes got deformed when loading, especially the last round in the mag. (first one loaded). He's fired about 2500 rounds of Federals with no FTFs.

I guess it depends upon the usage for the ammo. For serious target shooting, use the best you can afford. For shooting requiring Minute of Pop Can (M of PC) or Minute of Prairie Dog (M of PD), the bulk stuff can work fine.

:DOf course, you could always give up strong alcoholic beverages, smoking, and chasing wild women. That way, you could have enough money to shoot the $15.00 a box stuff instead of the $1.50 a box ammo!....

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Not a chance:)
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just a couple of points- 1 if you ever do get a "funny" fire, you carry a CLEANING ROD with you and do exactly the same procedure as if you get a squib in a centre fire- a stuck bullet is a stuck bullet and the same rules apply-CLEAR THE ACTION AND DRIVE IT OUT- or go home and do the same thing-and 2 - i've fired many thousands of rounds in a lot of rifles, handguns, etc, and there's no ammo that doesn't have an ftf somewhere in some box- there's a couple of reasons 1 i believe that the priming mix aquires a "dead" spot somewhere along the rim over time, and when you get an ftf, you hit that dead spot- simply rotating the cartridge will more often than not, fire it
2 some ammo is old when you get it-while it's fresh off the store shelf, you have no idea how long it's been in the distribution network- and 3 the ammo manufacturers don't really give a --- about 22- if the powder hopper runs out, and the cartridge is made without, so what-and how would you do a quality control in the first place- you'd have to weigh it, and the variances in the case alone are enough to compensate for a no powder- let alone the bullets- the last recall i saw was a winchester in which they had DOUBLE CHARGED the cases- so there must be SOME q/c, just not much
 
By far THE best bulk ammo you can get is CCI blazer imo.

Bulk walmart packs are terrible. Ill never buy those again, the annoyance of having 50-100 duds per box is not worth the few dollars in money savings.
 
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