A Norwegian Krag, at long last. Pics on

You're quite welcome! Now if you are handloading for it ,read below post on rated 6.5 Krag pressure...they recommend not using Swedish mauser loads in pre 1898 Krags...Harold
 
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gunaholic, I just called them and confirmed, it is indeed the Norge blade in my order.

Harold, for sure going to be loading for this rifle with Hornady 160gr RNs. Seller mentioned with the rear sight set at 100 it prints eight inches high at that same range. I might try loading to have it regulate to the sights. I have no desire to have the bolt buried in my face, nor any other part of it.
Thank you for posting the link!

Now just a sling.....
 
Noel, you are indeed a lucky man! This is the first time in years that I have missed the Red Deer show, and it looks like I missed quite a bit. If I was there it wouldn't have been on the table by the time you got there.If you don't mind saying, how much did that beauty set you back?
 
Mr. E Moose,
I guess there are some who say I do have a horse shoe wedged somewhere in some respects, and yet in other ways those same people shake their heads in amazement at the rest of my life.

While I was looking at it a couple guys came up to me and we're looking very intently at it. I figured them competition and was digging the cash out of my pocket without setting the gun down. Turned out he was the seller so I was safe.
I paid the asking price, as it was more than fair, especially compared to the prices I've seen on the other intact Norge Krags.
 
Noel said:
Mr. E Moose,
I guess there are some who say I do have a horse shoe wedged somewhere in some respects, and yet in other ways those same people shake their heads in amazement at the rest of my life.

While I was looking at it a couple guys came up to me and we're looking very intently at it. I figured them competition and was digging the cash out of my pocket without setting the gun down. Turned out he was the seller so I was safe.
I paid the asking price, as it was more than fair, especially compared to the prices I've seen on the other intact Norge Krags.
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That's a politician's answer, lol! But I think we all know they aren't cheap unless you find someone who doesn't know what they have.
 
gunsaholic said:
That's a politician's answer, lol! But I think we all know they aren't cheap unless you find someone who doesn't know what they have.
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Yeah, it is. Out of respect for the seller who is also on here, it is between he and I what the price was. I will say it was a very fair deal. And considering current circstance it was very fortunate, I was very fortunate.

Lostknife, it's too bad they didn't make more lefty actions. My son is southpaw and could have made good use of one that way.
I've taught him to shoot a right hand .22 left handed. Now he has the technique down it is second nature. I think it looks cool when he runs the bolt back.

Does anyone here have a sling end they could send or post a pic of so I can copy it?
 
Would the sling be leather and being as old as it is, would it be tough to find an original? Not sure when canvas came into vogue due to leather rot? You could always get a spare front blade and weld a piece to it and dress it down with a file to regulate it and put away the original one. Numrich Gun Parts perhaps ?
 
I'm not worried about having a repro sling but the hooks themselves seem very robust for the trigger guard mount.
My memory really sucks and I've only seen poor online pics. You know the ones, with toes in the bottom of the frame. ;)

I have my ways of antiquing or distressing the leather.

Great idea on the front sight Harold. This one is similar to the German Suhler claw scope mount on the rear ring, dovetailed as well as a half nut thread for windage adjustment. The lock screw head is twisted off so I should remedy that as well.
 
Noel said:
So, as far as the trials rifle goes, were they used in drills at a range or what purpose did they serve?
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Noel, a trials rifle is a testrifle, or a prototype. It was made or modified to test new features, ammo etc...
In the early 1880's Krag made a "capsule magazine" for the Jarmann rifle. This was the first gun that would become the Krag Jørgensen rifle.
http://digitaltmuseum.no/011022699389/?query=jarmann&pos=22&count=171

In 1891, the norwegian army established a "Rifle commission" to find a new army rifle, and the best suitable cartridge. They did extencive ballistic tests with calibers ranging from 10,15mm to 5mm, and came to the conclusion that a 6,5mm projectile would be the best. In 1892 they allready had a prototype 6,5 x 55 rimless cartridge. At the same time they were developing the Krag, and the final version was the M/1894. The swedes were at the same time adopting a mauser rifle. they also had a prototype cartridge, and had accepted the 6,5mm caliber from the norwegian trials. In November 1893, a commission of three swedish and three norwegian officers came together and drew up the final version of the well known 6,5x55 cartridge. Norway and Sweden were in a union with the same king back then, so the plan was to have a common cartridge.
Here's some trial rifles from that time.
7x57mm Krag
http://digitaltmuseum.no/011022699394/?query=krag&page=4&pos=81&count=1309

6,5x55 mm Krag from 1892
http://digitaltmuseum.no/011022699407/?query=krag prøvegevær&pos=4&count=37

Jarmann M/1892 in 6,5x55. The label on the ammo says: "Speedloader or cartridgeholder for 6,5mm Jarmanns rifle of 1892".
http://digitaltmuseum.no/011022700246/?query=jarmann&page=2&pos=45&count=171
http://digitaltmuseum.no/011022715826/?query=patroner&page=7&pos=153&count=612

As for ammo. The original cartridge had a 156 grain roundnosed bullet (B projektil), but in 1925 the army adopted a 139 grain boattailed spitzer bullet (D projektil). The rear sight on your Krag is modified for the new bullet. With the old bullet, the ramp on the rear sight were taller than the ladder, but on yours the ramp is level with the ladder. All military Krags got this update. Todays factory ammo for Krag has a 144 grain bullet with the speed of 770 m/s. The working preasure is 40600 PSI. I have just made some handloads for my Krag, but I haven't been at the range yet. I don't shoot it much, so I have only shot factory ammo so far, but kept the brass.

PS: I have a rotten / trashed sling I don't need. You can at least reuse the metal pieces. PM me for details.
 
Thanks for posting all that info in detail BMF.

Parcel notice is in for bayonet so I'll post some pics tonite or over the weekend.

Trying to decide what bullet to order now that you mention the sight swapping. Was going to use 160s.
 
I found this youtube clip. It's a norwegian kid shooting his Krag with 1926 dated ammo. The velocity read from the crono. is: 762, 747,752, 753 m/s. The kid is surprised, because he keeps hitting a gong at 220 meters. Hope he cleaned his Krag well, because that old ammo had corrosive primers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFMfwgVh4pU
 
Bayonet arrived today. My first one, so it was a new thing to slip one on the end of a rifle. Feel the change in fore weight/balance and surreal to think of its purpose.
Big thanks to M'bogo for passing that info along.
Some pics are due, naturally.... sorry the pics aren't more crisp. My shakes caught up with me.



Note the mentioned "C" over "B" stamp for release to the civvies.






 
I used to have a very nice 6.5x55mm M1894 Norwegian one, it was in beautiful shape and had been fitted out with a heavier target barrel and target/sniper sights by the Norwegian government for issue to their civilian marksman militia!

Here are some pictures of it -

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