A place to talk about Milsurp Prohibs that need to find a home!

Bartok5 said:
At the end of the day, those firearms (and their intrinsic value) belong to the inheritors of that estate and it is entirely their call as to what happens to them. We can sit here and moan about live guns being deactivated until the cows come home, but unless somebody is willing to pony up the cash equivalent to their deactivated value, it is all moot. The sad truth is those guns are worth more dead than alive solely because of our ideologically-driven government's civilian disarmament agenda. It is not the estate's fault any more than it is an auctioneer's. The inheritors of that estate are understandably interested in obtaining top dollar for that collection, and the easiest route to that end-state is deactivation within the current anti-firearms political climate. It only makes sense. The preservation of history is all well and good until it costs real dollars out of someone's pocket, then the altruistic urges usually lose out to fiscal reality.

My collection is another one that is worth "more dead than alive" due to the high number of recent and "classic" prohibs within it. I can tell you that those firearms each cost my family dearly, and my estate won't be donating many (if any) to a museum for a tax write-off worth pennies on the dollar. In all likelihood they will instead dbe chopped and/or welded to order as they are sold off -- either as de-registered parts kits or deactivated display pieces. Like others, my estate will be interested in the firearms primarily as a commodity to be sold for the highest possible dollar. The collection was important to me, but when I am dead and gone? All bets are off. My son and daughter may each elect to keep a few "sentimental" firearms from the limited selection that they is permitted to own, but the prohibs will go the way of the Dodo bird. Want someone to blame? Blame the government or making deactivation the only financially lucrative future for prohibited firearms in this country. Auctions are too risky a proposition, notwithstanding the current high priices being realized through Switzers, Landsborough, Wards and others. Deactivation is the far more predictable route to liberating finances that are tied up in a prohib firearms collection.

It sucks, but there it is. Expect to see more and more newly-deactivated prohibs on the market as the last generation of "classic" 1990s OIC owners dies off in the coming decade or two. Barring a change in government and a dramatic shift in the course of national firearms legislation in this country, the prohibs are doomed.. Better an inert, deactivated discussion piece than a smelter-recycled future as razor blades or some such.
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One of the best posts I have seen on here in a long time . very well said and to the point . I look at deactivating a firearm the same way that I would look at castration . so law abiding citizens held to the highest standards by our so called Government being told that they must ruin what they have paid for out of their own pockets . wow . soon what is to come . they will be sending interior decorators to our homes who are certified by the Government to tell us how to decorate or homes ? or what groceries we can or can't buy ?
 
Bartok5 is absolutely right. But we could at least offer them live first - if no interest at the price they can bring dead - off they go. List them here or on gun post at the dead price with the stipulation that that's what's going to happen to them if no one wants them live?

There are some that I would buy live at the dead price (and I'm allowed) and some I won't just because I don't want more than a few FALs as an example... (Bartok5, you have some guns I'm interested in personally, hope you'll at least give people like me a chance before deactivating)
 
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Mother of God. :dancingbanana:

I would rather they be kept as close to original condition (#### and click, subtly welded) and never melted down.

Of course, i wish deactivation wasn't even required. What a crock of sht

Some lovely guns posted!
 
you can't click a full auto under the current deactivation rules.

In the case of firearms designed to support full-automatic fire, the trigger mechanism
must be rendered unusable. Any trigger mechanism part or component which is
necessary for full-automatic fire must be destroyed by cutting or grinding and welded
in place to prevent replacement.
 
Armed Ginger, those look like pretty clean deactivations - nice work hiding the welds, etc. I was originally tempted to work only with Wolverine Supplies for my eventual Estate, but you have me reconsidering that exclusivity. What company do you work for in BC?

Kotkotofeich raises a good point. There is no harm (aside from time and effort) in listing the live 12(3), (4), and (5) prohibs in my collection at their deactivated value on the off-chance there is a qualified live buyer who wants something in particular. I must admit that I have been very fortunate to collect mostly pristine-looking firearms for my collection over the past 40 years. All have been fired (and some extensively fired!), but you'd never know it judging by their condition. There are a few particularly rare and nice pieces scattered about in there.
 
Bartok5 said:
Armed Ginger, those look like pretty clean deactivations - nice work hiding the welds, etc. I was originally tempted to work only with Wolverine Supplies for my eventual Estate, but you have me reconsidering that exclusivity. What company do you work for in BC?
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Those guns are all still live.
 
Also, the MG42 has two ammo cans filled with ammo and links and also has the lafette tripod with periscope and remote trigger so you dont have to pop your head up while firing.
 
Here in Poland, those guns could be modified for the sports shooter market in a heart beat. There are plenty of MG42s, Brens, and Thompsons (lend lease) going around. And yeah, the whole country would fall over themselves to get the MP40.

How is it done? Semi-auto is semi-auto. It doesn't matter what it could do, it only matters what it actually does.

On my MG42 they added a few extra bits in the trigger group to make it semi-auto.

On my ZB (predecessor to the Bren), they simply ground some material off the safety selector.

That was it.

They're "99% machine guns"

You should consider exporting...
 
joe6167 said:
Here in Poland, those guns could be modified for the sports shooter market in a heart beat. There are plenty of MG42s, Brens, and Thompsons (lend lease) going around. And yeah, the whole country would fall over themselves to get the MP40.

How is it done? Semi-auto is semi-auto. It doesn't matter what it could do, it only matters what it actually does.

On my MG42 they added a few extra bits in the trigger group to make it semi-auto.

On my ZB (predecessor to the Bren), they simply ground some material off the safety selector.

That was it.

They're "99% machine guns"

You should consider exporting...
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If you know someone that would pay the dead price of a mp40 plus export costs - tell them about this. Doesn't need to be the whole country - just one ;) You know export your way is easy enough - you've done it (and maybe you should write up about your experience now that the dust has settled). Those guns can be easily modified to Polish specs.
 
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