A question about chokes for steel

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When steel became mandatory for migratory game birds here, the rule of thumb was to shoot with a more open choke.

For example, if you used to shoot at ducks using lead out of a MOD choke, you were to now shoot steel out of an IC choke to achieve a similarly sized shot spread.

My question is, does this still apply to today's choke tubes when you are using steel? Or do modern tubes have different dimensions so that, when shooting steel, a MOD performs like a MOD?
 
In my experience it's still the same. I usually shoot a skeet or IC choke early in the season and Mod. when shooting late season or long-shot snow goose hunting.

What people fail to realize is that a choke diameter is only relavent you that specific barrel. Having "X" amount of restriction doesn't mean anything unless you know what size the barrel is...........I have factory Remington and Beretta chokes and I have Briley's that are specifically set in regards to my barrels on my competition gun. In my opinion people worry way too much about chokes and too little about shooting properly. If you hit them in the head at 25 or 30 yards, 5 pellets in the head is going to kill a bird just as dead as 10 to the head..........
 
Small steel sizes ie: 3 4 6 will pattern the same as lead through all chokes. It is only the big stuff ie: T F BBB that will tighten a choke a notch or two. I have shot alot on patterning boards and know this to be the truth. With new steel rated chokes watch what a FULL will do with 3's and 4's. It will impress you.

Regards, Darryl
 
A full choke for steel will not have the same restriction as a full choke for lead, hence the pattern differences.

my Trulock Precision Hunter chokes marked full amd modified are about the same as SKT2 and IC for lead IIRC .
Cat
 
You won't know what patterns best (lead or steel) out of your barrel/choke tube combination unless you pattern same with the shot size you plan to use. Each barrel is a law onto itself.
 
I personally don't understand why someone would shoot full choke with 4's or 6's in steel. Your knockdown power at the range you would want to use full choke is going to be less than desired (35-40 + yards) compared to when lead was used and guys were taking 60 yard shots. Maybe shooting teal or something similar but past that I'm not sure. But, to each his own.
 
JGL said:
I personally don't understand why someone would shoot full choke with 4's or 6's in steel. Your knockdown power at the range you would want to use full choke is going to be less than desired (35-40 + yards) compared to when lead was used and guys were taking 60 yard shots. Maybe shooting teal or something similar but past that I'm not sure. But, to each his own.
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JUST BECAUSE IT IS A FULL CHOKE FOR STEEL DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL HAVE THE SAM RESTRICTION AS A FULL CHOKE DESIGNATED FOR LEAD!!:cool:

This has been discussed here forever !!!d:h:
Cat
 
catnthehatt said:
JUST BECAUSE IT IS A FULL CHOKE FOR STEEL DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL HAVE THE SAM RESTRICTION AS A FULL CHOKE DESIGNATED FOR LEAD!!:cool:

This has been discussed here forever !!!d:h:
Cat
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No need to yell... Fine, if you buy a 'Full Steel' choke for waterfowl but if you're using a factory full choke, that's full for lead.
Go beat your own horse...:cheers:
 
JGL said:
No need to yell... Fine, if you buy a 'Full Steel' choke for waterfowl but if you're using a factory full choke, that's full for lead.
Go beat your own horse...:cheers:
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That may be so, but one manufacturer's constriction for a certain choke will not be the same as anothers' , they often are a compromise these days, it will not arbitrarily be "full for lead " and yes, I was yelling because if my previous post was read I would not be repeating my self AGAIN!!
Now go thump your chest somewhere else because you may be fooling some people but not all of us!:cool:
Cat
 
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