a question for anyone who has a pre 64 model 94

[unclealbert]

I had a heated discussion today with a gunsmith of 46 years concerning how a model 94 operates.
My position, after the action is cocked and the lever closed, pressure on the trigger alone with cause the hammer to fall.
His, the lever has to be pressed against the stock in order for the action to work.
How does yours work, and how does one in good working order work?
Who is correct?
Thanks, I love these rifles and just want to get it working properly.

 

[Nibe]

I know the lever has to be pressed against the stock with my my Mossberg 464. Don’t believe that was the case with my win 94 that I sold last year.

 

[guntech]

If everything is correct and working as it should ...

There is a small protrusion that requires the lever to depress it in order to allow the trigger to be pulled... Unless the lever is depressing this protrusion the trigger is blocked...

Get your gunsmith to show you...

 

[9.3mauser]

Pre and post '64's operate slightly differently.

On a pre-'64, as long as the lever is fully closed, you can fire the rifle without holding the lever tight against the grip. The safety is there to prevent the rifle from being fired out of battery.

With a post-'64, the safety acts more like a grip safety, in that the lever has to be held to allow the trigger to be pulled.

P.S. just checked a parts list and the part in question is called a trigger stop.

 

[28 gauge]

All Model 94 rifles have to have the lever against the stock to work.On older Model 94 rifles the lever is held against the stock by the tightness of the action.So yes, if the trigger was pulled without the hand in the lever it would fire.On post 64 rifles, the lever is looser and the lever is held against the stock when the hand is placed in the lever,when shooting. Just like 9.3mauser says.

 

[33nuts]

I know the lever has to be pressed against the stock with my my Mossberg 464. Don’t believe that was the case with my win 94 that I sold last year.

Thats it..............

 

[tiriaq]

If everything is correct and working as it should ...

There is a small protrusion that requires the lever to depress it in order to allow the trigger to be pulled... Unless the lever is depressing this protrusion the trigger is blocked...

Get your gunsmith to show you...

There it is.

As far as preventing put-of-battery firing goes, the hammer cannot cause the firing pin to go forward unless the locking block has risen.

 

[mike t]

If everything is correct and working as it should ...

There is a small protrusion that requires the lever to depress it in order to allow the trigger to be pulled... Unless the lever is depressing this protrusion the trigger is blocked...

Get your gunsmith to show you...

This ^^^^^^^ is absolutely correct

 

[unclealbert]

yes I agree with what you say. I believe there is some wear in the action of my rifle. I just need to find a good smith that can fix it.

 

[okcorral1881]

yes I agree with what you say. I believe there is some wear in the action of my rifle. I just need to find a good smith that can fix it.

Peter at Rusty Wood in Mission

 

[M1911]

If everything is correct and working as it should ...

There is a small protrusion that requires the lever to depress it in order to allow the trigger to be pulled... Unless the lever is depressing this protrusion the trigger is blocked...

Get your gunsmith to show you...

Yup it’s a little “button” that mechanically blocks the trigger unless depressed

You could theoretically depress the button and drop the hammer without the lever fully closed but as someone else mentioned it won’t influence the firing pin unless the locking block is in the right position

Really a brilliant design

 

[DGY]

Yes the lever has to be pressed against the stock to push on the little “button” that protrude the stock band!

 

[guntech]

On occasion I have had to bend the lever so contact could be made correctly rather than the end of the lever hitting before the 'button' was depressed...

 

[the spank]

I have a first year production Model 64 Deluxe Carbine and the lever needs to be pressed against the stock to depress the interuptor (for lack of a proper technical term) in order to fire. 64's & 94's are the same actions.

 

[alpining]

Some people think that the 1894 lever is supposed to work like a grip safety. The fact that it does work like a grip safety (after parts have come out of adjustment) is not helpful!

 

['Boo]

My pre-64 (1917) .30 WCF Model 1894

The "tab" or "button" is clearly visible to the rear of the trigger. The hammer will not drop unless the tab is depressed with the lever.