A real or fake L8A2 Enfield

55recce said:
"Ishy Screws don't mean India" baloney

Well its not baloney. Why do people think that fore end cracks were only repaired in India and no where else?

But in this case it looks like an Ishy screw. If it goes all the way through the stock and you can see metal where the point of the screw has been filed off it is Ishy .

Much neater repairs that do not go all the way through were done in the UK and Canada.

Be aware that I do not claim to be an Enfield expert but have looked into this as extensively as I can. have collected Enfields for 50 years plus etc etc. Because Enfields were produced in many different countries, over many years and different versions beware of anyone who calls themselves an Enfield expert. There are even errors in the Enfield bible written by Skennerton.

After thought. The markings on the side pf the receiver look far too crude to be a real L8 IMHO
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Hi 55Recce. I disagree with your assumption that Canada installed Ishy scews. Canada did NOT. I have gone thru the equipment stores list and a screw that size is not listed for spares to order. The Ishy screw is intended to prevent the fore from cracking or as an emergency repair for a cracked fore. With any cracked wood No.4 part the armourer scrapped the part.
The only preventative measures were splicing at the butt heal or toe at the factory and even that is rare. Brits were more frugal and wood insets and splicing was commonplace to save $$. Hot and wet climate environments demand reinforcing.
On a second point you have stated there are errors in Skennerton's Enfield publications. I think everyone would appreciate
that you back up your statement with referenced pages so we may correct any discrepancies. We all respect the truth. JOHN
 
Well I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. The whole reinforcing screw issue started when I wanted to trade a rifle for another. The dealer who had the rifle I wanted said he wanted his Enfiled expert to check mine over. Well he came back and said its not worth the money because it had an Ishy screw.

Well it was a Long Branch with a very neat un Ishy looking like repair and there was no other indication that the rifle had been out of this country. I always am deeply suspicious of anyone who claims to be an expert on such a wide ranging subject as I feel there is always exceptions to every rule.

I do not have a running list of errata for Skennertons work But, for example, he refers to the N9 as a No 9. His books are excellent but again the odd error is bound to sneak through.

You are quite entitled to your own thoughts on the matter and we can agree to respectfully disagree. I am not sure anyone has a definitive answer and in the greater scheme of things it really does not matter.
 
55recce said:
Well he came back and said its not worth the money because it had an Ishy screw.

Well it was a Long Branch with a very neat un Ishy looking like repair and there was no other indication that the rifle had been out of this country.
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Well good to know your views are not centered around any personal gain or bias. Thanks for being honest about it.
 
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