A statement that needs to be made.

As I said earlier this is a terrible tragedy that appears to have been well thought out. My heart goes out to the families who have lost so much!
I don’t think more laws/restrictions could have prevented this. We have some of the strictest in the world regarding firearms.
We need to get a political party on our side and fast to help us present facts and common sense to the masses and be prepared for what is coming!
Some people have commented was he licensed to have firearms? Consider this, how many serious laws did he break during his rampage? Even if he was or wasn’t licensed, did he have an Rpal endorsement? If he took the murdered officers sidearm and ammunition/magazines, he just broke even more laws than impersonation of a police officer, arson and murder. He would have had in his possession 3 prohibited magazines, I do not believe the RCMP are restricted to 10 rnds because they have to be able to kill people if needed and that could take more than 10. Now also think about if he did have a fetish as was mentioned, maybe he googled how to gain access the the officer’s patrol carbine, the same type of firearm the liberals call a military grade assault rifle only designed to kill the most people with efficiency, now he would have been in possession of another restricted firearm and at least one more prohibited device, a 30 rnd capacity magazine, as I don’t believe they are restricted to five rounds. Possibly more magazines, I’m not sure what they carry for a situation.
 
FyreFighter said:
What you don't seem to understand is that not only do most Canadians not agree with IRUNGUNS, but the overwhelming majority of Canadians do not believe in firearms rights.
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Unfortunately this is the sad reality. Most are uneducated regarding our laws and believe that we are just like the USA.
 
I do not know what the non-gun owning public know or even understand about firearms ownership and usage in Canada? You listen to them talk about how legislation passed in the eighties has kept our society safe for decades! One inanimate object popped into another has rendered our society safe from mass murder for decades!?? How do these people become brainwashed to the fact that inanimate objects are responsible for bad things? Not bad people choosing to hurt other people with whatever means they have at their disposal. You would think they expect a persons hand to fall off before they could pick up a gun if they were not allowed to have one? Would a police officer or politician jump out from behind a tree and say no, no, no, put that down, you are not supposed to have that! You listen to Bill ramble on and it’s apparent the one Justin put in charge doesn’t. I wonder if he knows being a police officer does not entitle him to private ownership of firearms, other than his duty firearm issued to him by the force he is employed by, for carrying out his duties as a policeman while on duty. If he wants to have others he is required by law to have an Pal/Rpal depending on what he wants to own. Maybe the RCMP requires it’s members to have a Pal/Rpal? I do not know, I am not one. I have a hard time understanding how people can have blind faith in a governments word and legislation to protect them and they believe that it actually does protect them! How do they think it has nothing to do with people getting up every day and making conscious decisions to do the right thing and treat their neighbours as they would like to be treated them selves. This exact case in point, how many serious laws did this individual break during his rampage that are already on the books that they can’t get people to follow already. How would have a ban prevented any of these unfortunate circumstances from happening?
 
I knew he didnt have a license when a ctv reporter asked Lucki whether the shooter had a license or not? She hesitated, and Drunkard Billy took the question and said it was under investigation and couldnt say 1 way or another, as it was part of the investigation. Ya sure they didnt know, and what is the damage to say yes or no at the question monday morning? Now they'll have a harder time pushing their B.S. gun grab. How many laws did he break that made no difference. Real question should be is why wasn't the emergency alert sent to all cell phones in Nova Scotia? Not everyone uses Twitter FFS!
 
FyreFighter said:
How many of you ##### and moan about every goddamn thing our government does?

You don't trust the govt to classify firearms or appoint law enforcement officers but you're willing to give them the power of life and death? Give your heads a shake.

As for IRUNGUNS, how about you just stick to selling guns and leave the thinking to others?
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I hope you're not the one that is going to do the thinking for others!
 
When are the libtards going to realize that disarming good people will do nothing to prevent tragedies like this to happen?
 
So I feel the need to ask how many respondents to this thread crowing about needing a gun to defend themselves ever defended themselves in a life or death situation of any type? With any weapon of any kind?
I read the whole thread and one piece stands out. Whats wrong with us north american white men? We are the hands down, top of the heap, numero uno perpetrator of mass killings. This guy was a ####ing coward like so many before who “people were not nice to” when he was young. So like the pussy he was he needed a gun to show how tough he was to the whole world.
I have lots of guns, hunted my whole life, shoot at my local range often and promote my sports to those on the fence.
Never once needed one of my guns to defend myself.
Used my dead grandmothers cane on one late night intruder, and the near death beating I took once in public, well I asked for it.
So i am not afraid of my sport being regulated more. In fact, I am not afraid of much; But
I am afraid there are a lot more crybabies here than I thought. 22 people murdered this weekend and most of you have all shown your petty fear before their blood is dry and the faces of their loved ones are still wet with tears.
Shame on you
Now seeing the mess we are in I am beginning to understand the OP
I am tired of taking the blame for others misdeeds. If I thought giving up my guns would stop the mindless
Killings I would gladly hand them over. Sadly our government wantS not a solution to killings just a polarized population and votes for the next election.
 
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jimmerp said:
So I feel the need to ask how many respondents to this thread crowing about needing a gun to defend themselves ever defended themselves in a life or death situation of any type? With any weapon of any kind?
I read the whole thread and one piece stands out. Whats wrong with us north american white men? We are the hands down, top of the heap, numero uno perpetrator of mass killings. This guy was a ####ing coward like so many before who “people were not nice to” when he was young. So like the pussy he was he needed a gun to show how tough he was to the whole world.
I have lots of guns, hunted my whole life, shoot at my local range often and promote my sports to those on the fence.
Never once needed one of my guns to defend myself.
Used my dead grandmothers cane on one late night intruder, and the near death beating I took once in public, well I asked for it.
So i am not afraid of my sport being regulated more. In fact, I am not afraid of much; But
I am afraid there are a lot more crybabies here than I thought. 22 people murdered this weekend and most of you have all shown your petty fear before their blood is dry and the faces of their loved ones are still wet with tears.
Shame on you
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The fear is very well justified when the first thing our leader did was vow to restrict our ability to own many firearms. I’m
Missing your point. It was a tragedy and it’s tremendously sad but that doesn’t mean we can’t be fearful of the #### legislation that’s to come. Also just because you personally didn’t need a firearm for self defense means nothing. Your experiences don’t speak for everyone.
 
55recce said:
Strict gun laws seem to have stopped shootings in the UK (e.g. no repeats of Hungerford or Dunblane), Australia and NZ.

Not any mass shooter events in those countries since they cracked down.
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Bullsh!t.

UK

7 March 2009, Massereene Barracks shootings:
2 dead, 4 injured. Real IRA claimed responsibility, used an AKM rifle.

2 June 2010, Cumbria shootings:
13 dead including shooter, 11 injured. Murderer used a double barrel 12 gauge and a bolt action .22 (Fudds take note).

12 August 2018, Moss Side shootings:
0 dead, 12 injured. Shooter used a shotgun, was not caught.


Australia

21 October 2002, Monash University shooting:
2 dead, 5 injured. Shooter used handguns. Was used as reason to further tighten gun laws.

29 April 2011, Hectorville siege:
3 dead, 3 injured. Shooter used a shotgun.

15-16 December 2014, Sydney hostage crisis:
3 dead including shooter, 4 injured. Islamic terrorist, used sawed-off pump action 12 ga.

5 June 2017, Brighton siege:
2 dead including shooter, 3 injured. Islamic terrorist, used sawed-off over-under shotguns.

4 June 2019, Darwin shooting:
4 dead, 1 injured. Shooter used a pump action shotgun.

14 April 2019, Melbourne nightclub shooting:
2 dead, 4 injured. Drive-by shooting.


As for NZ, well it's still too early after Christchurch...

Need to be careful with facts otherwise they can turn around and bite you.....
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Indeed.
 
jimmerp said:
So I feel the need to ask how many respondents to this thread crowing about needing a gun to defend themselves ever defended themselves in a life or death situation of any type? With any weapon of any kind?
I read the whole thread and one piece stands out. Whats wrong with us north american white men? We are the hands down, top of the heap, numero uno perpetrator of mass killings. This guy was a ####ing coward like so many before who “people were not nice to” when he was young. So like the pussy he was he needed a gun to show how tough he was to the whole world.
I have lots of guns, hunted my whole life, shoot at my local range often and promote my sports to those on the fence.
Never once needed one of my guns to defend myself.
Used my dead grandmothers cane on one late night intruder, and the near death beating I took once in public, well I asked for it.
So i am not afraid of my sport being regulated more. In fact, I am not afraid of much; But
I am afraid there are a lot more crybabies here than I thought. 22 people murdered this weekend and most of you have all shown your petty fear before their blood is dry and the faces of their loved ones are still wet with tears.
Shame on you
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I don't understand why you should be allowed to murder animals. An animal is a non-consenting party, minding its own business, while you are invading their territory. An animal has no moral agency and you feel no remorse killing them. For that matter, I am 100% sure that the vehicle you are driving to go hunting consumes too much fuel and needs to be regulated more, due to a large carbon footprint and only somebody with a special permit should be allow to use anything over 1000cc engine in displacement. Lastly, you should have written permit to be able to travel between locations such as your house and work. Shopping will require a separate permit as you need to specify what, when and where you will be buying and doing at those locations, and how much you will be spending.

As for mass killings. You have been a member on this forum since 2009. Can you please direct me to your posts where you have spoken out against the unjustified Wars waged on our behaves with our money (in the name of "WMDs", "terrorism", "peace in the Middle East"), since just 2009 by the North American governments. Please do enlighten us. Oh right there isn't one; virtue signalling and shaming people is how you get around. Thanks for coming out.
 
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