A Story About Glocks.

just having some fun said:
I have only fired 2 glocks
first one was a 40 cal a very long time ago (gen 1) glad it was not mine could not hit a target with repeatability
and 45 acp model that one of my friends had (not bad) I hit 3 out of 5 shots on steel at 50 yds (never fired that gun before)

But something can be said about steel framed guns -- if you have a brass fail in the head area all you do is replace the grip panels and put in another mag and you are up and running again
you dont have a cracked frame
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The poor performance with the Glocks was you not the gun. Buying a steel framed gun on the premise that a kaboom would be easier solved is plain silly.

Magellann said:
Great story, but like the previous post says they look like they are made of Lego's, no doubt that they seem to be a decent performer.
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Lego is both singular and plural like the word moose, no need to add an "S" to the end. Looks don't make you shoot any better or any worse and besides you're looking through the sights at the back of the pistol so it makes no difference.

lavino said:
Nah, just some fancy marketing way for them to show off the firing-pin plunger safety back then. We all understand why the Glock won't go off because the plunger safety is totally blocking the firing pin from even moving forward at all but back in the 80's it was such an amazing new concept most people don't realize what's going on inside. Anyone who understand how the Glock working internally nowadays will probably say 'yeah that is expected, why so surprised? (unless you have a really faulty safety plunger spring.... muhahahahhahaha)' Should anyone try to do that with a Glock? NO.... Is it a cool marketing scheme... Kinda... at least in the 80's
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Not correct. The striker safety plunger prevents the striker/firing pin from reaching the primer unless the trigger is depressed. The fact that the Glock is a DOUBLE ACTION design and that the crucible sear travels in a track and cannot release the striker until it(the crucible sear) is retracted all the way to the rear of said track is what keeps the Glock "throw" safe. The trigger bar safety prevents the trigger and trigger bar from moving, which prevents the crucible sear from moving which prevents the hump on the trigger bar from pushing the striker safety plunger out of the way.

BlackWatch said:
I wish the grip wasn't at the angle it's at. I find they point naturally high. I've had five different models of Glock's and prefer the G19 I have but I am considering getting rid of it in favour of the new P2000 I just acquired. I do prefer a pistol with a higher bore axis because I find them easier to manipulate when using C clamp grasp. The slide stop lever is a little too small on the Glocks for my liking. During a phase 2 stoppage locking back the slide in a high stress situation with sweaty hands would prove difficult imo. I know I know a glock will never give you a stoppage lol.
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The angle difference on a Glock vs other pistols is no more than about 4' degrees. The Glock angle is more natural for a locked wrist and very closely replicates a proper grip on a revolver and yet no one complains about the grip on a revolver.

A type two stoppage/malfunction is a failure to eject or stovepipe. There is no need to lock the slide to the rear, TAP RACK solves it. If you're talking about a type 3 stoppage/malfunction where you end up with a double feed then holding the slide to the rear while pressing the magazine release will usually drop the magazine and free the stuck rounds. The slide stop is small in size BY DESIGN on Glock pistols as it is to be used to manually lock the slide open and not to close the slide on a fresh magazine.

hayday said:
The H&K USP is a better pistol in ever respect.
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Nope, thanks for coming..

CrazyHands13 said:
Imagine if the Glock hadn't fired when the Glock rep went to fire it!

Doesn't surprise me with the aftermarket connector tbh. As a general rule... if it ain't broke don't fix it, right? Kind of like people taking SKS' that function perfectly, putting some plastic mags on it and then wonder why their gun ftf's.
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Aftermarket bits are often the cause for loss of reliability in Glock pistols.

Jericho said:
Glocks are different and require getting used to. The grip angle os different as is the trigger. When I first started training on Glocks, my accuracy was poor. Now I am very confident with any Glock with triggers as light as 3.5 lbs all the way up to NY2.

Anyone can shoot okay with a light and easy trigger like a 1911. Takes a real shooter to master heavier triggers and the fundamentals really come into play.
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You are absolutely correct, the different part about shooting Glock pistols is that you must understand and apply the fundamentals. Unlike heavy guns with short light single action triggers a Glock will not cover up bad form.
 
Kidd X said:
The poor performance with the Glocks was you not the gun. Buying a steel framed gun on the premise that a kaboom would be easier solved is plain silly.



Lego is both singular and plural like the word moose, no need to add an "S" to the end. Looks don't make you shoot any better or any worse and besides you're looking through the sights at the back of the pistol so it makes no difference.



Not correct. The striker safety plunger prevents the striker/firing pin from reaching the primer unless the trigger is depressed. The fact that the Glock is a DOUBLE ACTION design and that the crucible sear travels in a track and cannot release the striker until it(the crucible sear) is retracted all the way to the rear of said track is what keeps the Glock "throw" safe. The trigger bar safety prevents the trigger and trigger bar from moving, which prevents the crucible sear from moving which prevents the hump on the trigger bar from pushing the striker safety plunger out of the way.



The angle difference on a Glock vs other pistols is no more than about 4' degrees. The Glock angle is more natural for a locked wrist and very closely replicates a proper grip on a revolver and yet no one complains about the grip on a revolver.

A type two stoppage/malfunction is a failure to eject or stovepipe. There is no need to lock the slide to the rear, TAP RACK solves it. If you're talking about a type 3 stoppage/malfunction where you end up with a double feed then holding the slide to the rear while pressing the magazine release will usually drop the magazine and free the stuck rounds. The slide stop is small in size BY DESIGN on Glock pistols as it is to be used to manually lock the slide open and not to close the slide on a fresh magazine.



Nope, thanks for coming..



Aftermarket bits are often the cause for loss of reliability in Glock pistols.



You are absolutely correct, the different part about shooting Glock pistols is that you must understand and apply the fundamentals. Unlike heavy guns with short light single action triggers a Glock will not cover up bad form.
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I can post pictures of the difference in grip angle. It appears to be a lot more than 4degrees.

Maybe the training I received is different than yours? A phase 1 stoppage is just a click, no fire cleared by move, tap and rack. If it doesn't fire on the second pull you go into a phase 2 stoppage. Lock back the slide, strip the mag, cycle the action and insert a new mag rack it and start shooting again. I find pistols with a more pronounced slide stop (not release) to be easier to manipulate. If the slide stop is small BY DESIGN that is to overcome bad training and bad habits by the user. If it's smaller to prevent people from using it to release the slide then it also makes it more difficult to lock the slide back.
 
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Kidd X said:
The poor performance with the Glocks was you not the gun. Buying a steel framed gun on the premise that a kaboom would be easier solved is plain silly.



Lego is both singular and plural like the word moose, no need to add an "S" to the end. Looks don't make you shoot any better or any worse and besides you're looking through the sights at the back of the pistol so it makes no difference.



Not correct. The striker safety plunger prevents the striker/firing pin from reaching the primer unless the trigger is depressed. The fact that the Glock is a DOUBLE ACTION design and that the crucible sear travels in a track and cannot release the striker until it(the crucible sear) is retracted all the way to the rear of said track is what keeps the Glock "throw" safe. The trigger bar safety prevents the trigger and trigger bar from moving, which prevents the crucible sear from moving which prevents the hump on the trigger bar from pushing the striker safety plunger out of the way.



The angle difference on a Glock vs other pistols is no more than about 4' degrees. The Glock angle is more natural for a locked wrist and very closely replicates a proper grip on a revolver and yet no one complains about the grip on a revolver.

A type two stoppage/malfunction is a failure to eject or stovepipe. There is no need to lock the slide to the rear, TAP RACK solves it. If you're talking about a type 3 stoppage/malfunction where you end up with a double feed then holding the slide to the rear while pressing the magazine release will usually drop the magazine and free the stuck rounds. The slide stop is small in size BY DESIGN on Glock pistols as it is to be used to manually lock the slide open and not to close the slide on a fresh magazine.



Nope, thanks for coming..



Aftermarket bits are often the cause for loss of reliability in Glock pistols.



You are absolutely correct, the different part about shooting Glock pistols is that you must understand and apply the fundamentals. Unlike heavy guns with short light single action triggers a Glock will not cover up bad form.
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Whoa! I have heard of drinking the Kool-Aid.... but bathing in it!?



I have owned many Glocks. Prefer the PPQ personally. But that's just me. To each their own.
 
ChromeArty said:
To each their own.
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And this is the correct answer. That's why there are Hi Points to Korths and beyond on the market.
If you like it, buy it and shoot it. We still live in a (somewhat) free country!

With all the handguns I own including steel ones, the one I enjoy the most is still my Glock.

As ChromeArty said, " To each their own"!!
 
ChromeArty said:
Yeah brother!

Can't wait for my Shadow 2 to show up!!!!
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Totally opposite gun to a Glock. Post when you get it. It will shoot smaller groups than your Q. I have to admit the SP-01 I shot definitely was a more accurate gun than my Glock. Then again, a 5" vs a 4", nice slim FO vs blocky night sights as well as a waaay better trigger on the Shadow probably had a lot to do with it!
 
I've had the chance to shoot a Glock 19 a few times now( thanks SA) , and I'm surprised how many comments there are about " getting used to a Glock", the grip angle etc. I found the one I have shot fit my hand well, and I actually seem to shoot it very well ( I think so anyway,lol) and although I have always considered them visually unappealing, I will be purchasing one as my next handgun, I enjoyed shooting it that much :)
My first encounter with a Glock was when I was a house painter and found a loaded Glock 17 hidden in an air return vent in a house we were repainting for a new owner, I should have saved myself some money and just slipped it in my pocket hahaha, (JUST KIDDING!!!) but the homeowner called the RCMP when he saw me pull it out!
 
A glock can take a lot of abuse apparently and still function,...but A High Point 45 can take Anything !! See the U Tube video's of them trying to destroy one. They drove a 4x4 truck on top of it & then did a Brake Torque on it !!! LOL Amazing Ugly Gun.
 
True, the blowup tests they tried on the Hi-point were eye opening as to the toughness of the gun. Pretty amazing, for a bargain basement price.
 
I shot a few Glocks, shot them fairly well, but thought "meh" Then I walked into my local gun store and handled a 9mm USP and thought "This is for me!!!" Got her out to the range, annnnnnd yeah, not for me. Ended up getting a G22 because I wanted something in .40 and while my G22 sits in my night stand safe, my USP sits on consignment at the local gun shop.
 
rkm456 said:
I shot a few Glocks, shot them fairly well, but thought "meh" Then I walked into my local gun store and handled a 9mm USP and thought "This is for me!!!" Got her out to the range, annnnnnd yeah, not for me. Ended up getting a G22 because I wanted something in .40 and while my G22 sits in my night stand safe, my USP sits on consignment at the local gun shop.
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Too bad you don't live closer. I love my USP in .40! The HK just feels like quality in the hands.
It is a overkill gun in 9mm though. Way too big. Like a 2 ton car with a 4 banger.
 
Still alive said:
Too bad you don't live closer. I love my USP in .40! The HK just feels like quality in the hands.
It is a overkill gun in 9mm though. Way too big. Like a 2 ton car with a 4 banger.
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That is an interesting observation that I've made as well, Still alive. Most USP variants were really made with the 40 in mind. in 9mm, they are beefy guns. The Elite is the exception. The 9mm version of the Elite has a slimmer trapezoidal shaped slide and thinner barrel chamber compared to the 9mm Expert or standard 9mm USP. You can only get the Elite 9mm or 45 - the 45 being noticeably larger.
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It is just a standard Elite with a tuning weight. Definitely one of my favs.
 
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