A video about t97 take some extremely condition tests (Part 2 updated!)

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Hi everybody:

I'm from China, nice to meet you guys!

I found someone here are interest in Norinco, which is probably the only Chinese company who's product won't be called trash by you guys. So I made an English sub for a short video from Chinese military channel, talking about what sort of tests the T97 had went through before it been approved to manufacture on a large scale.

Not sure if this is the right place to post it, but hope you guys like it!:cool:


And a additional video for a T95 basic operation training. It's not upload by me and I think you don't need a eng sub.:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhaaPW0vKuE

Got go to sleep for tomorrow's work now, and you guys are about to start a nice sunday...I hate wark....anyway, Enjoy it!

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Sorry for been late...It's really a peak season for my job, always tons of things waiting for me at office...but I feel this is a debt I must finish it, so here you are! Enjoy~
 
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There will always be people who demand the best, regardless of price. Norinco, like many Chinese products, lacks consistency of finish, and sometimes, poor assembly. I own 50+ guns, and 13 are Chinese made. People do not view guns like they would kitchen equipment, and will not accept shortcomings. Great attention must be paid to details. Improve slightly, check closer before packaging, and you will be on par with the others. Currently, you produce a product that is 2/3rds as good as the average, at half the price, a good value, but not without compromise.

Oh, and use actual people who grew up speaking English to write the manuals, and edit packaging.

Thanks for sharing, and welcome to the site!
 
Thanks for sharing.

When I was searching youtube on this rifle come across those videos but can't understand Mandarin and thanks for taking time to add the English subtitle its very helpful.
 
Thanks for the videos! I really like my T97 rifle & will be buying a second one when CanadaAmmo gets theirs!

Cheers
Jay
 
5440fight said:
There will always be people who demand the best, regardless of price. Norinco, like many Chinese products, lacks consistency of finish, and sometimes, poor assembly. I own 50+ guns, and 13 are Chinese made. People do not view guns like they would kitchen equipment, and will not accept shortcomings. Great attention must be paid to details. Improve slightly, check closer before packaging, and you will be on par with the others. Currently, you produce a product that is 2/3rds as good as the average, at half the price, a good value, but not without compromise.

Oh, and use actual people who grew up speaking English to write the manuals, and edit packaging.

Thanks for sharing, and welcome to the site!
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doesn't mean the t97 is bad or unreliable in any way. The AK was also known to be flimsy and of 'poor quality' compared to western rifles. Doesn't change the fact that it probably has the best track record out there.
 
I like it that from 1:38 to 2:13 in the instructional video the guy is aiming at head height with his finger on the trigger almost the whole time. I can only hope he had a fully loaded mag as the poor grunt looking at the muzzle end seemed like he had something to say afterwards, just could understand a word. But then again he did plug the barrel with a cotton ball .........
 
5440fight said:
There will always be people who demand the best, regardless of price. Norinco, like many Chinese products, lacks consistency of finish, and sometimes, poor assembly. I own 50+ guns, and 13 are Chinese made. People do not view guns like they would kitchen equipment, and will not accept shortcomings. Great attention must be paid to details. Improve slightly, check closer before packaging, and you will be on par with the others. Currently, you produce a product that is 2/3rds as good as the average, at half the price, a good value, but not without compromise.

Oh, and use actual people who grew up speaking English to write the manuals, and edit packaging.

Thanks for sharing, and welcome to the site!
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Nice way to welcome a guy and thank him for his extra effort. He wasn't trying to convince anyone a Norc is better than any "north american" rifle. He was just trying to supply some additional info for people interested in the T97. No need to give the guy a schooling on YOUR opinion of the T97. Many of us who do or have owned one think they are quite well made. Not a Tavor, but for nearly 1/3 the price, MORE than good enough.

To the OP, thanks for posting. Interesting stuff for sure.
 
omegaboost said:
doesn't mean the t97 is bad or unreliable in any way. The AK was also known to be flimsy and of 'poor quality' compared to western rifles. Doesn't change the fact that it probably has the best track record out there.
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There are an lot of delusional people on this site! I find it interesting that Norinco seems to have there quality control questioned by so many people on CGN, I rarely see questions about the Freedom Arms Group quality control which seems to be an on going problem, which is probably why they are up for sale by Cerberus and may be bought by Taurus (Brazil). It seems to me that Norinco products are more appreciated in the US where they have not been available for the last eighteen years, since $800 is considered the going price for a used Norinco M14.
 
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correct me if im wrong, but the T97 NSR we get isn't up to the same standards as the T95/QBZ-95/T97 the Chinese military uses? I'm actually curious to know
 
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Vancouvergunnut said:
correct me if im wrong, but the T97 NSR we get isn't up to the same standards as the T95/QBZ-95/T97 the Chinese military uses? I'm actually curious to know
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From what I have read from some Chinese forum, the only difference is Chinese military use 5.8 bullet. Other things are the same. There are some reports said PLA did a lot of experiment and concludes that 5.8mm is the best seize for bullet under 6.0mm, don't know what standard they use to draw this conclusion.
 
pavmentsurfer said:
Nice way to welcome a guy and thank him for his extra effort. He wasn't trying to convince anyone a Norc is better than any "north american" rifle. He was just trying to supply some additional info for people interested in the T97. No need to give the guy a schooling on YOUR opinion of the T97. Many of us who do or have owned one think they are quite well made. Not a Tavor, but for nearly 1/3 the price, MORE than good enough.

To the OP, thanks for posting. Interesting stuff for sure.
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Thanks for your reply! IMO the Soviet Union way of design weapon has a very heavy impact to Chinese. The value-cost ratio is always take the first place, than comes the reliability. Meanwhile it needs to be easy to carry, maintenance and large-scale produce. The accurate is not that important, and the military would not approve to spend more money to prove the detail's quality.

Norinco and its parent company is almost equals to the half of Chinese defence industries, they make everything from bullets to tank to missle. All I can guess is the export of light arms only account for a very small portion of its total income, especially after been banned from US market, and they just don't pay much attention to the retail market, judged from the package. Wish someday I could work for norinco for do some overseas marketing, that would be really cool...

Anyway, the phrase "got a little bit more than what you paid" applies to a norinco, and I'm happy to see it. Time for me back to work, have a nice day!
 
Vancouvergunnut said:
correct me if im wrong, but the T97 NSR we get isn't up to the same standards as the T95/QBZ-95/T97 the Chinese military uses? I'm actually curious to know
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your better off comparing it to a t97a, the front sight is one piece for ease of production, the trigger is plastic instead of metal, the barrel is slightly longer than the t97a, the reciever is different inside for the trigger group. The gas block lacks the bayo lug. So from this its a very sporter oriented rifle, whereas the 97a is an export military version
 
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