A Way to Get 10 Rounds in SKS Legally?

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OMFGWTFBBQ.... this thread is so full of fail... f:P:

mdmaroon: Best of luck with the adapter, interested to see how this turns out!

I think everyone in the red rifle forum needs to go visit the black rifle forum, or maybe just get their heads out of the sand about the legality of pistol magazines...

Me, I'm wondering about bolt action 7.62x39 magazines now... :D
 
autocrash said:
Me, I'm wondering about bolt action 7.62x39 magazines now... :D
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Me too. The key thing would be that the magazine cannot be designed or manufactured for both. It would have to be specifically designed for the non-semi-auto purpose, but just happens be usable in the SKS (what a coinicidence).

3. Magazines designed or manufactured for both centrefire calibre semiautomatic rifles and other (non-semiautomatic) rifles

Magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic rifle are limited to five cartridges. However, magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle other than a semiautomatic or automatic rifle, do not have a regulated capacity. Magazines that are designed or manufactured for use in both semiautomatic rifles and other (non-semiautomatic) rifles are subject to the semiautomatic rifle limit of five cartridges.
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So let convert some bolt actions to 7.62 x 39 and then design and manufacture 30 round magazine specifically for the new bolt action rifles. :)
 
Dakk said:
So let convert some bolt actions to 7.62 x 39 and then design and manufacture 30 round magazine specifically for the new bolt action rifles. :)
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There are bolt action 7.62x39 rifles already commercially produced, but conveniently, none of them come with more than a 5 round magazine.

There's the CZ 527, Savage Model 10 Scout, BARS 4-1, and some Norinco thing that I saw on the Marstar site. All five round.

I'll be perfectly happy with 10 rounds, as that is the intended capacity of the SKS.
 
mdmaroon said:
There are bolt action 7.62x39 rifles already commercially produced, but conveniently, none of them come with more than a 5 round magazine.

There's the CZ 527, Savage Model 10 Scout, BARS 4-1, and some Norinco thing that I saw on the Marstar site. All five round.

I'll be perfectly happy with 10 rounds, as that is the intended capacity of the SKS.
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I haven't read the whole thread, but isn't 7.62 a .308? Would you not be able to put a 7.62 into a .308 mag? Then it's just a matter of getting it to fit right?
 
ALLS London said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but isn't 7.62 a .308? Would you not be able to put a 7.62 into a .308 mag? Then it's just a matter of getting it to fit right?
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You know of a 308 mag that will hold ten rounds of 7.62x39?

Even if there is one, it probably would be too long to feed the SKS. Wouldn't fit.

The XCR Pistol magazine is a readily available, legal one that probably will work.
 
mdmaroon said:
You know of a 308 mag that will hold ten rounds of 7.62x39?

Even if there is one, it probably would be too long to feed the SKS. Wouldn't fit.

The XCR Pistol magazine is a readily available, legal one that probably will work.
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not off hand but I'm sure something exists...

this is why I ask, I don't know, but I do own an SKS and would LOVE a 10 rd mag if it would work.
 
ALLS London said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but isn't 7.62 a .308? Would you not be able to put a 7.62 into a .308 mag? Then it's just a matter of getting it to fit right?
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I don't think it would work.

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The 7.62 x 39 is way shorter and has more of a taper too it. Both those things would cause feeding issues in a .308 mag. Look at the differences between a m14 mag and an 858 mag. The 858 has to be curved for a reason.

The more you stacked a 7.62 x 39 round in a straight mag the more the tip of the bullet will dip. Eventually the round would not leave the mag when picked up by the bolt, but be pushed further into the mag.

Shawn
 
shawn said:
I don't think it would work.

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The 7.62 x 39 is way shorter and has more of a taper too it. Both those things would cause feeding issues in a .308 mag. Look at the differences between a m14 mag and an 858 mag. The 858 has to be curved for a reason.

The more you stacked a 7.62 x 39 round in a straight mag the more the tip of the bullet will dip. Eventually the round would not leave the mag when picked up by the bolt, but be pushed further into the mag.

Shawn
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I get the theory, and I don't disagree. Looking at my SKS right now, it doesn't have a 'curved' mag so to speak, althought I guess the back is bigger than the front.

Oh well, another idea down the drain.
 
mdmaroon said:
There are bolt action 7.62x39 rifles already commercially produced, but conveniently, none of them come with more than a 5 round magazine.

There's the CZ 527, Savage Model 10 Scout, BARS 4-1, and some Norinco thing that I saw on the Marstar site. All five round.

I'll be perfectly happy with 10 rounds, as that is the intended capacity of the SKS.
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Then all someone has to do it design and manufacture a 10 round magazine for one of them.
 
Dakk said:
Then all someone has to do it design and manufacture a 10 round magazine for one of them.
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Why stop at 10? Why not 20 or 30?

The problem is, our actual intent in making such a magazine would be to put it in the SKS. If we're being honest, that's the REAL reason we'd want it, and based on that it would be prohibited.

The range I go to only allows 5 rounds in the magazine, even if it holds more (yes, for rimfire too). So this XCR modification is going to be useless for me there. It's just a fun project for me. I'll use it on crown land.
 
mdmaroon said:
Why stop at 10? Why not 20 or 30?

The problem is, our actual intent in making such a magazine would be to put it in the SKS. If we're being honest, that's the REAL reason we'd want it, and based on that it would be prohibited.

The range I go to only allows 5 rounds in the magazine, even if it holds more (yes, for rimfire too). So this XCR modification is going to be useless for me there. It's just a fun project for me. I'll use it on crown land.
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your range needs an executive shuffle.... its people that set limits of 5 rounds that are ruining the sport for everyone, they are the same ones that probably dont like semis and were in favor of banning handgun hunting

I know of a range that set a limit of 1 round per magazine
 
mdmaroon said:
The problem is, our actual intent in making such a magazine would be to put it in the SKS. If we're being honest, that's the REAL reason we'd want it, and based on that it would be prohibited.
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Only if it was carreid out that way.

One party designs and manufactures the magazine for the other rifle. If you look online, you'll see there are people asking for them for some of those other rifles. Another party comes up with the way to get it working on an SKS.

That's the only way it would work.
 
I have a feeling you may be playing with fire by attempting to load a SKS this way. If you get hurt at least you will be able to say "I was warned" by a member of the Forum Gun Nutz. Make sure all your health insurance is payed up before attempting this is my suggestion.
 
Blueglass said:
I have a feeling you may be playing with fire by attempting to load a SKS this way. If you get hurt at least you will be able to say "I was warned" by a member of the Forum Gun Nutz. Make sure all your health insurance is payed up before attempting this is my suggestion.
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No pain, no gain! ;)
 
drift1122 said:
How much do you think ppl will spend on a mag adapter for the xcr-sks?
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I don't intend to sell it. I just want to share how I do it, if I manage to find a decent way.

I even have an idea for how to make the last-round bolt hold-open feature keep working, without any physical modifications to the magazine.
 
My XCR Pistol Magazine has arrived.

I'm at work, so I don't have the gun in front of me, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to modify the bolt a little to work with this magazine. Other than that, I see no major obstacles or fundamental reason why it wouldn't work.

It's just a matter of making it sit in the correct position in the gun.

If I could, it would be kind of nice to keep the door from the old magazine on the gun and fit the XCR magazine inside it. I would of course remove the old magazine and follower, keeping ONLY the hinged cover. I think the XCR magazine might be too long to fit though. This would allow the SKS to maintain it's original look. I HOPE it fits that way, but I'm not optimistic.

If it does, that'll be great. I would normally just leave the XCR mag in the gun and load with stripper clips. If the question of "why is this 10 round SKS legal" came up, I pop the cover, pull out the XCR Pistol mag and voila, legal 10-rnd magazine.

Tonight I'll know more.
 
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