No ill effects means just that - no damage & no pain.
And you clearly have no clue how hearing damage occurs and the long term effects of cumulative hearing damage. I worked as a Health & Safety Manager for a large multinational company for several years so I have a background in the prevention of hearing loss. Your qualifications are ........ ?
You had audiometric testing done before and after to prove no hearing damage? Cause that is the only way to know for sure.
Telling us that you stood next to me while I was firing my rifle and concluding the suppression was roughly 142 dB is utterly meaningless and NOBODY will take your shooter's ear measurement seriously.
I know you are but what am I? Maybe try a more constructive and adult form of rebuttal and people might be willing to listen to your argument.
I never made any kind of SPL claim. Only said I stood next to one being shot and was less than impressed. I have a lot of experience with various silencers and calibers and am reasonably well qualified to decide when a can's performance is decent or not. I would never try to assign a sound level based on hearing a can but I know a loud can when I hear it.
You didn't sample my rifle during the 2006 shoot as you have stated and your claims are baseless.
I "sampled" it as much as anyone could. Standing beside a suppressor is a much better indicator of that can's performance than being behind the trigger because it is much closer to the position of the sound meter. Again, didn't make any kind of claim other than to say I was less than impressed. You are the one making baseless claims of 139 dB when you haven't even sound tested the thing properly.
Suputin, maybe you should get yourself an M14 and an SEI/Fisher sound suppressor, run your tests and publish your results here for all to see.
I had an M14 years ago and am not really all that interested in having another. Not really all that interested in having a loud suppressor either so I think I'll forgo the suggestion.
This would be far more credible than your off the wall comments and guesstimations.
Interesting. I quote the published MIL Std and associated scientific factors involved in the testing based on personal experience and this is apparently some kind of "off the wall comments and guesstimation". You go around making s**t up out of thin air and your numbers are somehow concrete data?
Might suggest you cut back on the drinking or caffeine or whatever drugs you are currently on.
Look, I know what it is like to try to create these things and all your hopes that they work well. I have gone through this lots of times myself. But the reality is sometimes an idea doesn't work no matter how much time you spent creating it or how cool you think it is and you have to let that go, get over your own ego and decide to make something better next time. The sound meter is a harsh teacher but she never lies and ultimately she will show you the way to real performance.
Fooling yourself with bulls**t in order to pump up your own ego will NEVER lead to worldclass sound performance. You can tell yourself, "my can is better" a thousand times but that isn't going to change reality.
I'm not trying to be a #### about this but you are making baseless claims here and needed to be called on it because the vast majority of guys on this forum don't know any better.
