above 10 power Scopes

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I would appreciate some advice. I bought a AIA Lee Enfield from Marstar and it came with a wonderful scope that is 2.5 to 10 power, but I find it difficult to spot my hits in the black at 100+ yards. I don't want a spotting scope and accoutrements.

What would your suggestions be for a reasonable priced higher powered scope, to mount on this rifle? Without getting into astronomy sized and expensive ranges.
 
10x should be OK. Don't know what you have, but maybe you need beter quality.

I suggest a Leopold 4.5-14, look for a used one on EE.

Also a cheap spotting scope will save you lots of walking, = handy at the range.
 
I have a Bushnell 4200 4-16x40 on my CIL/Anschutz .22 and I can easily see .22 sized holes in the black at 100yds. Any decent scope with around 14-15x max magnification should do it for you.

As an alternate, try using targets with a smaller black area. With a 10x scope you should be shooting at 1-2" black bulls at most I would say.

Mark
 
You could just try a different target, bullet holes are a lot easier to see on white than on black. Having said that, I'd be the last guy to tell you not to upgrade scopes. A 10 power that won't show 30 caliber holes at 100 isn't wonderful.
 
I don't blame the scope guys, it's old age. The scope is the one that came with the rifle from Marstar, and it's not bad. I hunted with a .30-06 Winnie model 70 with a 3-9 Bushnell on it, and that was a great scope. But now i'm target shooting only, I think that a higher power would help, but i'm restricted cash wise, so any suggestions will be carefully considered.
 
It is pretty easy to miss a 30 cal hole in the black with any 10x scope. Using a white plastic backer behind the target helps. The plastic springs back enough to show through the hole. Craft stores usually have something which will work OK. Regards, Bill
 
Yep,that's another good method. Have something behind the target that shows bullet holes.

I've used orange targets with a black sheet behind and the holes are easy to see.

Thanks Leeper!
 
At 100 yards I shoot at a 1" square patch. I adjust scope to shoot above or below patch, so i don't destroy the aiming mark.

I aim at a corner of the patch. Holes in the white are easy to see.

That's just about exactly what I do, but with 1" orange targ-dots, aiming at the 1/4" black diamond. For winter shooting I pound a staple through the dot as well, it's maddening to have the dot fall off during a group.
With bullets landing on white paper I can see 17 caliber holes with a 2-7 Leupold rimfire scope. Even .22s look huge compared to that.
 
Sometimes I use orange target dots that I got cheap at an office supply store. On really bright days I don't like them so much but good on overcast or dreary days.

Sometimes I use benchrest targets with the aiming square above the bullseye target only I mount them upside down (aiming square down) so that I am zeroing the scope to hit about 1.5" above the sight line.
 
THE best target material I have ever found was to buy a large pad of kid's colored construction paper (the stuff that is ~18X24") and use the yellow or red stuff. I just use a felt pen dot , but a da-glo sticker as an aiming mark would be good for your purposes. The holes virtually show to the naked eye at 100M. The printed targets have too much crap that just makes seeing hits harder. The other more expensive option is the "Shoot 'n'see" targets that are black, yet flake-off to reveal a bright color near the bullet hole. ....Those work fine if you shoot groups bigger than .3 MOA :)
 
I like a 1 inch square of red duct tape, with a loose leaf reinforcement in the middle, then I aim for the little red dot in the middle. Of course, with the scope set to hit somewhere not to destroy the aiming point (if you actually do hit this target dead on, the reinforcement will fall off :mad:) To be extra fancy, you could use grid paper.
 
appreciate the advice, I will try different targets, but I think I might need a more powerfull scope eventually, especially when I go to longer ranges.
 
As someone said earlier a spotting scope saves some walking.

Here's a thought http://www.dansdata.com/astroscan.htm

There are other variations of this design that are less costly and may give similar performance to a good spotting scope. I have no experiance with a small reflector of this type but I've used 8" reflectors and you could tell the difference bettween a hornet and a fly on a barn about 750m away.

http://www.escience.ca/telescopes/RENDER/5/1024/1043/14533.html

http://www.escience.ca/telescopes/RENDER/5/1024/1043/14559.html

http://www.escience.ca/telescopes/RENDER/5/1024/1043/14564.html
I'm betting this will out perform any refractor even close in price.


I'm planing on picking up one very soon if I like the way it performs. I'll post the details when I get down to the scope shop good or bad.
 
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