Accidental Discharge

This was not an Negligent Discharge (Shooter pulls the trigger and fires the weapon when it is inappropriate or unsafe) it was an Accidental Discharge (Rifle is at fault due to mechanical malfunction, slam fire, cook off, ect...).


Not every ND is the shooters fault, poor range staff giving confusing directions seems to be a common culprit.
 
Negligent discharges are allways your fault...

You are correct Sir or Mam, but there is a difference between accidental discharge due to mechanical failure and negligent discharge due to operator failure would you agree or disagree?

If you are blaming me for the misfire then I challange you on your assertion and ask you explain to the readers how mechanical failure during proper handling technics is operators fault.
 
UPDATE!!!! Anschutz is a Great Company stands behind their products 100% and has asked that the gun be sent back for inspection as in their opinion the incident as I described is should never have happened. Just want all to know the company is making good on their part and do not want to bash a company for an uncommon failure, unexpected, and really unacceptable failure.
 
Further Update, Anschutz, after having had the rifle looked at in Canada, has asked it be sent back to Germany, they will send a new one in its place. Figured they would. Pretty pleased that they are absolutely taking care of this the right way, and will soon be shooting with confidence again.
 
One time a dad, his adult son and I were deer hunting out of a tent. Came back from the morning hunt and unloaded our rifles. I watched the son unload his dad's rifle, old Remington pump model 14 in 35 Remington calibre. After he had the ammo out of the tube magazine, I watched as he gave it two extra pumps. He then handed the rifle to me, because I wanted to look at it.
I again pumped it and looked in it. I asked if I could try the trigger and said I could. I then gave it another pump, aimed at a rock on a hillside, squeezed it off, and BANG! That is a surprise you don't want to get. My immediate reaction was fright, because we had permission to hunt on a ranch and there were cattle all over the hill I shot into. Could a glance off the rock or bare, frozen ground have hit one?
Not long after that I read where one had to be careful with the model 14 in 35 Remington, because the last cartridge in the magazine sometimes hangs up!
About the same time as this there were a group of us deer hunting from several camping outfits. Again, after teh morning hunt, an older fellow was sitting on the ground, back against a vehicle wheel, unloading his 8mm Mauser, by working the cartridges through the chamber. I was about a hundred feet away.
BOOM!
He obviously wouldn't have the bolt handle down in the shooting position, while just unloading the magazine. I'll guess that he too, thought it was empty and was clicking on an empty chamber. We never did find out.
 
The two loudest sounds a gun can make are "CLICK" when it should have gone "BOOM," and "BOOM" when it should have gone "CLICK."
 
Further Update, Anschutz, after having had the rifle looked at in Canada, has asked it be sent back to Germany, they will send a new one in its place. Figured they would. Pretty pleased that they are absolutely taking care of this the right way, and will soon be shooting with confidence again.

That's good news for sure. Had the rifle gone back to the warranty depot, been declared sound, and returned to you, you'd never have known if it was properly serviced.

Intermittent problems are always tricky to repair because they can't reliably be repeated. You're always left wondering if they fixed it, or simply couldn't get it to fail in their presence.
 
dan, it is a good lesson when things go well, but again, its not something I expect or accept from a rifle that was designed so this will NEVER happen. I simply don't accept it, but believe me always be even more conscious of the muzzle direction and not load until its on target or very near. If one accepts any gun can AD then all Semis should really be unloaded after they are relaoded especially all the 10/22's in the gopher patch, which is not realistic. which brings me back to the the point that this should NEVER happen from any gun that is in proper functtioning condition and well maintained. I can expect it from a relic or 100 year old gun that has been abused but not a new 'well made' rifle. It happens doesn't work for me.

What you expect or accept is pretty much pointless in this context. ADs can happen in any firearm. Any mechanical device can fail. You can send it back to be checked and corrected and when you get it back you will still never know ABSOLUTELY that it cannot happen again, and the same can be said for every firearm.

You are correct to be wary and get it checked out, but don't necessarily expect the 'smith to find anything. A lot of ADs are never duplicated in the shop when a gunsmith checks it out, and most of these incidents are then attributed to operator error by the manufacturer or the warranty depot. When mechanical faults are found it is quite often due to either a bad spring or filth/junk in the mechanism.

One other thing - you need a real GUNSMITH to look at your rifle, not an engineer. Gunsmiths repair and toubleshoot problems in firearms. Engineers don't necessarily do that. When your car engine goes bad, you take it to experienced mechanics to assess and repair it. You don't take it back to the factory for the engineers to play with. Most engineers wouldn't know a socket from a pipe wrench and I wouldn't let most of the ones i know attempt to repair a broken hammer handle, let alone a precision mechanical instrument like a firearm.
 
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