Accurate plinking loads 45-70 and Trailboss

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I have a Marlin 1895 GS and looking for an accurate plinking load.

Whats your experience with loads for this rifle and what groups are you getting.
Looking for loads around 1000 fps or less
 
What are you loading...cast or jacketed? I push mine a little ways past 100 fps.

I follow the IMR instructions and charge the powder (Trailboss) to right below the bullet. Makes for a nice poof and bang. Consistent case preparation is the key as well.

I picked up a box of 350 cast in P&D and they shoot great with my 1895 Cowboy.
 
WOW! sobo4303 100fps - I can thow faster than that. LOL

I used 400gr cast by MT Chambers and 12 grains of Trailboss. @ 50 yards I ended up with 4" groups which really sucks.
 
Here's a couple of results with the load data I used. Some shot with a Pedersoli Sharps and some with my Marlin 1895GS.

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358Scout said:
I like the bottom load. Will try that one. Thanks
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39 grains of IMR 4198 under a 405 grain Remington jacketed flat nose isn't really a "plinking" load. That's pretty much a hunting load.

Using 500gr cast plain base bullets over 15gr of Trail Boss I'm getting ~975fps. I shot about 3" off hand standing at 50 yards (sights on my rifle are junk though.)

Using the same bullets over 16gr of Bluedot I got ~1130fps and about the same accuracy.

Same bullet over 20gr of H4198 getting ~1250fps. About the same accuracy again.

I really need to get a scope on my rifle (it already has the mount and I have the rings sitting on my desk, just haven't gotten around to buying a scope yet) to really tell accuracy of the loads though.
 
LUTNIT said:
39 grains of IMR 4198 under a 405 grain Remington jacketed flat nose isn't really a "plinking" load. That's pretty much a hunting load.
Using 500gr cast plain base bullets over 15gr of Trail Boss I'm getting ~975fps. I shot about 3" off hand standing at 50 yards (sights on my rifle are junk though.)

Using the same bullets over 16gr of Bluedot I got ~1130fps and about the same accuracy.

Same bullet over 20gr of H4198 getting ~1250fps. About the same accuracy again.

I really need to get a scope on my rifle (it already has the mount and I have the rings sitting on my desk, just haven't gotten around to buying a scope yet) to really tell accuracy of the loads though.
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True enough, but the that target and load info happened to be on a scan with another load that was a plinking load, both of which I've put through my Guide Gun.
 
Makes sense. Also didn't realize it was the same picture; thought it was 4 separate pictures.

358Scout originally asked for a plinking load and said he would try the one load you showed that wasn't a plinking load. Just figured I'd point it out to him.
 
zuke said:
17 grs of Trailboss under a 330gr HP paper patched boolit.
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Pardon me if it's a silly question since I've never paper patched but do you patch full .457" bullets? If not what calibre do you use for paper patching? It's just that I've got a .430 240gr SWC mould that casts too small for my .44 mag Marlin 1894 and was wondering if it was a candidate for experiments.
 
Don't know if you're interested but I have an article on the topic of 'patching' bullets with a twist of using some of todays technology. PATCHING CAST BULLETS With TEFLON by Curtis L. Wilson and was published in a '86 edition of the Handloader. I've tried it to a small degree but patching is a little more time consuming than I'm interested in dealing with. However, I've scanned the article and if you're interested, PM me your e-mail address and I'll send it along to you.
 
LUTNIT said:
Pardon me if it's a silly question since I've never paper patched but do you patch full .457" bullets? If not what calibre do you use for paper patching? It's just that I've got a .430 240gr SWC mould that casts too small for my .44 mag Marlin 1894 and was wondering if it was a candidate for experiments.
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I cast like normal then run them thru a LEE 452 sizing die then wrap them in paper bringing them up to 459 in dia.
I use straight wheel weight's for lead.
 
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